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I'm actually quite shocked by the crossfire/sli results, possibly driver issues on the green side, we will have to see how it changes once they are ironed out

I still would rather buy 2 7970's than 1 Titan for the money
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So 1400$ for 2x 7970 @ 1200MHz with one year of drivers development vs 2000$ for 2x Titans @ stock speed with just one driver so far.......The results don't sound that bad.

Two Titan @ 1100MHz will smoke those 7970s even with the current driver.

In a few weeks at most, SLI will be near 90% if not above....
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So 1400$ for 2x 7970 @ 1200MHz with one year of drivers development vs 2000$ for 2x Titans @ stock speed with just one driver so far.......The results don't sound that bad.

Two Titan @ 1100MHz will smoke those 7970s even with the current driver.

In a few weeks at most, SLI will be near 90% if not above....

These aren't stock titans, they're downclocked titans.
 
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I love how people talk about drivers for the Titan. When an AMD card is new and loses to an Nvidia card the Nvidia is clearly the victor to them. No talk about drivers. When the Titan gets asswhooped by a card that is less than half its price suddenly it is driver issues. While in every other thread they keep talking about how bad amd drivers are. You gotta love the nvidia folk. They take brand loyalty to a whole other level.
 
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It's a driver issue but considering the price tag this just shouldn't be happening, for the cost per Titan I would want it perfect out of the box with no exceptions.

And I thought Nvidias drivers were awesome rolleyes.gif
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So let me get this straight, they had the 7970s at 1200MHz but LOCKED the Titans to 867MHz? I mean seriously? How is this review even remotely representative of anything?

Here's my card:


I mean this is just silly, if anyone is putting any weight on this review they're just wanting to see something. There's literally nothing (except the stuttering comments) that could be relevant in the real world. There is absolutely 0 reason to lock a titan to 867MHz if you own the card. Outside of doing double precision work that is.
what in the world is the reason for disabling a stock feature?
you should know by now... That Titan has throttling issues, even some people with the card at stock settings have throttling issues.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I don't know why you would even post that pic of your mighty titan when it's probably not even stable. rolleyes.gif
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Titan's boost is also "stock". This reviewer was very foolish to disable a feature that the product was designed to use out of the box.

OMG it's a conspiracy to make the Titan look like an overpriced ripoff ph34r-smiley.gif (not that they even had to try)

... they clearly stated why they disabled the boost functionality...
Edited by th3illusiveman - 3/10/13 at 3:57am
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you should know by now... That Titan has throttling issues, even some people with the card at stock settings have throttling issues.

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I don't know why you would even post that pic of your mighty titan when it's probably not even stable. rolleyes.gif

5 minutes of Heaven isn't relatively stable?

The throttling problems are under investigation as confirmed by jacob and manuelG. In the mean time those of us that don't have them can enjoy our card to their fullest. All those clocks took was a bios flash to a higher voltage and power limit BIOS.

Just because people said that the Titan couldn't OC well due to the power limit and throttling doesn't mean that we haven't learned a lot about our cards by now. When I started out I maxed out at 1150 in heaven and experienced very little throttling, now I'm at 1254 with no throttling. All it takes is getting to know your card.
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OMG it's a conspiracy to make the Titan look like an overpriced ripoff ph34r-smiley.gif (not that they even had to try)

... they clearly stated why they disabled the boost functionality...

They said they disabled it because they didn't want any anomalies, which makes absolutely no sense. A stock titan will boost to around 980MHz and stay there unless you're running in a very hot room and your temps get all the way to the limit...

They are disabling a stock feature that will cause one card to be considerably slower while they're enabling a feature on teh 2nd card that will make it considerably faster.
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5 minutes of Heaven isn't relatively stable?

The throttling problems are under investigation as confirmed by jacob and manuelG. In the mean time those of us that don't have them can enjoy our card to their fullest. All those clocks took was a bios flash to a higher voltage and power limit BIOS.

Just because people said that the Titan couldn't OC well due to the power limit and throttling doesn't mean that we haven't learned a lot about our cards by now. When I started out I maxed out at 1150 in heaven and experienced very little throttling, now I'm at 1254 with no throttling. All it takes is getting to know your card.
Nope , but if you got it stable it 1.24Ghz without throttling than congratulations, that's higher than any reviews i saw or any users i've seen.

That fact that you had to flash a new Bios onto your card to get it working right is precisely why he disabled boost. I don't think he wants to risk bricking 2K worth of hardware. All he had to do to get the 7970s to 1200Mhz was push a button thumb.gif
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This made me chuckle ....... now lets wait for the next gen cards to match/outperform Titan for half the price in few moths., say what you will but Nvidia completely failed with pricing of this card , it's nowhere near worth 1k.
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Nope , but if you got it stable it 1.24Ghz without throttling than congratulations, that's higher than any reviews i saw or any users i've seen.

That fact that you had to flash a new Bios onto your card to get it working right is precisely why he disabled boost. I don't think he wants to risk bricking 2K worth of hardware. All he had to do to get the 7970s to 1200Mhz was push a button thumb.gif

And all he has to do to get Titans to 980MHz is do absolutely nothing. In order to get them down to 867MHz he actually has to lock the clock at that.

Also, I didn't need a new BIOS to avoid throttling, with my stock BIOS and some tweaks I got 1176MHz stable without any drops. The reason the reviewers didn't get them as high is the same they always end up at lower clocks than enthusiasts, they have less time to do the OCing.

And as a last point, the only way you will end up bricking your card with a BIOS flash is if you flash it with a completely wrong BIOS meant for some different card and something blows up. Flashing a bios takes a whole 30 seconds and repairing a borked flash takes probably around 15 minutes. It's not rocket science.

(and 5 minutes of heaven is relatively stable. It's a very stressful bench and 5 minutes of it is enough to max out temps and get a few rounds done)
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This made me chuckle ....... now lets wait for the next gen cards to match/outperform Titan for half the price in few moths., say what you will but Nvidia completely failed with pricing of this card , it's nowhere near worth 1k.

Should make you chuckle about as much as this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

As a review this is about on par.
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