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If your smart about data backup then RAID failing and losing your data is almost a non issue, the real issue then is that you are now twice as likely to be very much inconvenienced.

Lets say that you run RAID on two 64GB drives and one of them fails, you have your data backed up so no big deal. BUT, now you cant just go on using that one drive, because more than likely you had more than 64GB stored on it. So now you have to buy another 64GB and reinstall OS and all programs.

So a RAID failure isn't a huge worry for data loss, but it can end up being a big inconvenience.
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If your smart about data backup then RAID failing and losing your data is almost a non issue, the real issue then is that you are now twice as likely to be very much inconvenienced.

Lets say that you run RAID on two 64GB drives and one of them fails, you have your data backed up so no big deal. BUT, now you cant just go on using that one drive, because more than likely you had more than 64GB stored on it. So now you have to buy another 64GB and reinstall OS and all programs.

So a RAID failure isn't a huge worry for data loss, but it can end up being a big inconvenience.

just so i can get this straight. when people say raid messes up they mean it completely fails? as in "just throw it away cause its done for"?

what are the chances of 1 one ssd failing in raid 0 anyways? im sure it's not that much of a worry. and if one fails il still have my 750gb hdd to lean on. thanks for all the help though.
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just so i can get this straight. when people say raid messes up they mean it completely fails? as in "just throw it away cause its done for"?

what are the chances of 1 one ssd failing in raid 0 anyways? im sure it's not that much of a worry. and if one fails il still have my 750gb hdd to lean on. thanks for all the help though.

When people say that RAID-0 fails they are refering to one of the drives in the array failing.

The way that RAID0 works is that data is stored on two different drives simultaneously. Meaning that, if you were to save a picture on a RAID0 array, one half of that picture would be stored on drive A, and the other half of the picture would be stored on drive B. So if one drive fails, then the one half of your picture is completely gone, and since your still working drive only contains the other half it is useless, and there is no way to even access it anyways. So if one dies. It is all essentially lost.

I HIGHLY recommend that you give THIS LINK a read.
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Man, that ebay SSD is a beast. IDK what you are thinking on skipping out on the ebay SSD. lol. rolleyes.gif

What SSDs are you comparing? What are their actual model names. Now where you are buying from...
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When people say that RAID-0 fails they are refering to one of the drives in the array failing.

The way that RAID0 works is that data is stored on two different drives simultaneously. Meaning that, if you were to save a picture on a RAID0 array, one half of that picture would be stored on drive A, and the other half of the picture would be stored on drive B. So if one drive fails, then the one half of your picture is completely gone, and since your still working drive only contains the other half it is useless, and there is no way to even access it anyways. So if one dies. It is all essentially lost.

I HIGHLY recommend that you give THIS LINK a read.
thanks. il definetly read it.
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Man, that ebay SSD is a beast. IDK what you are thinking on skipping out on the ebay SSD. lol. rolleyes.gif

What SSDs are you comparing? What are their actual model names. Now where you are buying from...

i was thinking two ocz vertex 80gb
or a single samsung/intel 120

anything you can recommend for raid 0 or just a single
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger View Post

When people say that RAID-0 fails they are refering to one of the drives in the array failing.

The way that RAID0 works is that data is stored on two different drives simultaneously. Meaning that, if you were to save a picture on a RAID0 array, one half of that picture would be stored on drive A, and the other half of the picture would be stored on drive B. So if one drive fails, then the one half of your picture is completely gone, and since your still working drive only contains the other half it is useless, and there is no way to even access it anyways. So if one dies. It is all essentially lost.

I HIGHLY recommend that you give THIS LINK a read.

i was further looking into raid 0 and some mentioned getting a raid controller. what does this do and do i need one?

or does my motherboard already have one.. asrock z77 extreme 3
Edited by atomik9274 - 3/10/13 at 7:24am
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Just checking so I know...
If you use Raid 0 and to make 160GB drive, If it crashes
will you lose all information on both drives?

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That is absolutely correct. That data is GONE! (Another reason why I got out of RAID.)

But, if your single SSD crashes, you still lose all of the data... redface.gif

The only way to insure you won't lose anything permanently would be to back up the information to another drive; and, even then, that backup drive could fail, so make a backup of your backup, and so on... or, you could do a RAID 1 or RAID 10 array; that significantly ups your chances of not losing everything if the gods of bad luck decided to pick on you one day.
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i was further looking into raid 0 and some mentioned getting a raid controller. what does this do and do i need one?

or does my motherboard already have one.. asrock z77 extreme 3

Your mother board has:

4 x SATA2 3.0 Gb/s and 2 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s that support RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5, and RAID 10

If you plan to utilize two SSDs in RAID 0, make sure to use the 2 SATA3 ports on the motherboard to do so; they are faster than the SATA2 ports. You'll have to put your 750GB HDD on one of the SATA2 ports, but since it will be used for backup and other stuff, the decreased speed likely won't be a bother.

You do not need a separate RAID controller; they are mainly for server applications where there are not enough SATA ports provided on a single motherboard to handle all of the drives in the server.
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