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Hi all
Thanks for the comments!

@Exxon.
I'll surely put my rig in my sig after it's all put together.

@Wisk,
I didn't think about the Samsung Green RAM. It's not available where I am, so I need to check more and special order it.
[EDIT]
I found Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB 1600Mhz (2 x 8GB) @ 1.35v. This will work well also?

The 3770S really does have 65w max TDP. Wanted 8 threads for transcoding and more future-proof.
http://ark.intel.com/products/65524/Intel-Core-i7-3770S-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
This benchmark shows the 3770s uses half the power consumption than than 3770k and 80% more performance per watt: Lower base clock and less overclocking shows less overall performance - expected.
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-3770S-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770K

@psyclum.
I thought about an external optical drive. But I just wanted to stuff one in and never think about it again. The internal drive also looks more tidy.

About the AXP140. It does look better than the Samuel 17. But I'm not 100% sure it can fit in a ASRock H77M-ITX - the CPU is still near the PCIe slot. I can't find a clear answer on the web anyplace.
Well, a 3770S is like a 3770 that got it's foot shot. It's clocked much lower and to get half power consumption depends on the mobo itself unless it's real socket power and well, the i7 3770S is not very much a well cherrypicked version of the 3770 or K
it's merely a gimped and slightly better-binned i7 3770 that is factory set to run at 3.1GHz and produce TDP of 65W max. If you want to REALLY save power get the K and a Z board

A good example of extremely well cherrypicked chips. A Xeon L5520 (Cherrypicked gainestown) that i use has a TDP guaranteed @ 2.26GHz. Okay. I run my chip @ 2.4GHz (with a forced 18x multiplier) and TDP hasn't gone over 60W if at all unless i increase the voltage which i don't need to because i can boot 1.04V@3.6GHz or 0.912 on 2.51GHz Turbo'd (The board reads the chip's VID as 1.04V mad.gif )
But the i7 920? Not so much. It costs 200$ less but it's TDP is more than twice, yeah. D0 will crack 4GHz stable but of course not without massive waterloop and lots of voltage

In fact laptop chips are basically the best cherrypicked lower voltage low frequency locked cousins of the desktop unlocked ones, therefore that's why they cost more
Only with cherrypicked chips can you really push them chips but sadly a merely gimped 3770 is hopeless. 400MHz (12.9% increase) boosts performance and increase power a tiny bit. Just 5-6 watts ANDDD, you can undervolt a 3770 to match a 3770S
Undervolting does a hell lot more difference than merely downclocking
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Originally Posted by Doomtomb View Post

I thought S on these chips always stood for "slow"
Which they are, indeed. Slow in a sense of slow in that particular family
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Originally Posted by enewmen View Post

Change in plan.
After reading this again:
So, I returned the 3770s I ordered from overseas for a refund.

If my rig does break - which is possible. Then I'll get a
Same SG08 case as the original plan.
3770k - instead if the 3770S
Asus P8Z77-I DELUXE - instead of the ASRock H77m-I. (because I will have more cooler choices).
NH-C12P - instead of the Samuel 17 - just bigger and better AND I can find one where I live. It seems I need a cooler that size if I want < 60c temps at full load.

Any idea when the 2nd release of Lynx Point (z87 ITX series) Motherboards and 2nd Stepping of Haswell CPUs will be out - based on past history? That is the soonest a stable Haswell system CAN arrive.
If the Haswell has the same stupid high watts idle and high system load - even when using Notepad, playing CardGame or MineSweeper, then I'll just forget about Haswell completely.. Still hope Haswell can do MUCH better in ATX12v and Kilo Nodes / watt benchmarks.
If I can wait that long.

Thanks again!
You think so? It has hyperthreading and that costs 10-15W. And not to mention TURBO clocked. You need to compare a i7 with a i7 not a freaking C2Q w/ a i7
It's only single threaded apps that IVB won't show obvious savings WITH hyperthreading but a i3 might win your C2Q by a little bit, not much i reckon to be on the safe side. All that with half the power consumption even on the i3-2120
The i3-3220 is about 30-40% less power consumption
Haswell probably won't do any better since it's a TOCK. But if you compare a i5 and your C2Q differences become clear, your C2Q is clocked low and is MUCH slower, when you bring it up to IVB frequencies your C2Q will do much less performance/watt. Intel would probably bump the cores up to a 6 physical core or something but they didn't, they want to fight in the mobile market now redface.gif
So they merely decreased power consumption drastically with the move to 22nm node and 3D construction tri-gate transistors that allowed them to cut power consumption by half compared to SB of the same game
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AMD Ryzen 7 1700 ASRock X370 SLI Killer Zotac GTX1070 "FE" with ID Cooling Frostflow 240G Crucial BallistiX Sport LP 16GB 8x2GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Zotac SSD Premium 480GB OCZ Vector 180 480GB Hitachi 7K3000 3TB 7200rpm ID Cooling Frostflow 240L 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
ID Cooling Frostflow 240G Phanteks F140MP x2 CoolerMaster Silencio FP120 x2 Phanteks F140SP 
CoolingMonitorKeyboardPower
Delta AFB1212SH x2 Dell U2713HM CM Storm MECH FSP Aurum PT 1200 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech G102 Tesoro Aegis X3 Virtus.Pro AKG K7XX 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i7 6700k Gigabyte Z170X-UD5 Depends Depends 
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Plextor M5S Depends Dell U2312HM CM Storm Quickfire Rapid-i 
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