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hmm I think it is and I want it on the inside so I need a 80X15 fan then?

Yep smile.gif

Here is the specs of the stock fan, Young Lin DFB801512H: http://www.tmfan.com/doc/ball%20bearing/80size/DFB801512H(6V%20start).pdf
And here the specs of the Noiseblocker PC-P: http://www.blacknoise.com/downloads/datasheets/33/TData_BSP8015_122012_de_en.pdf

As you see, pressure is a bit better at 12V on the stock fan, but the range of rpms is much wider on the PC-P and max measured noise is 9 dBA less which to your ears is almost half as loud.
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Am I the only one getting this case with the intention of waiting until other PSU options become available?
    
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Yep smile.gif

Here is the specs of the stock fan, Young Lin DFB801512H: http://www.tmfan.com/doc/ball%20bearing/80size/DFB801512H(6V%20start).pdf
And here the specs of the Noiseblocker PC-P: http://www.blacknoise.com/downloads/datasheets/33/TData_BSP8015_122012_de_en.pdf

As you see, pressure is a bit better at 12V on the stock fan, but the range of rpms is much wider on the PC-P and max measured noise is 9 dBA less which to your ears is almost half as loud.

hmm interesting I was actually just pricing out my order on FrozenCPU versus Dazmode because at Frozen they sell the fan and Daz doesnt lol
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Am I the only one getting this case with the intention of waiting until other PSU options become available?

I am thinking about it still but my idea for this build is going to be using it for 4 years with no upgrades or nothing a solid rig for that time and the psu is already strong enough, I will be getting Modiy to sleeve my cables and I will probs be swapping out the fans to make it more quite so I dont see the need to wait for something that might not happen just my 2cents.gif
    
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Am I the only one getting this case with the intention of waiting until other PSU options become available?
Nope, I'm planning on gradually building the rig well into 2014(maybe mid~late 2014) Me have soft spot for case and if nothing changes on the PSU front, I'll just get whats available.

Regarding the Screws and the radiators - I mentioned them on the original CS thread.
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It's official, I have #026 =]
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Catching up a little... been keeping busy with all the new orders. cheers.gif Thought I'd answer anything that hasn't been covered yet (or add some extra info where I can)...

 

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Okay, I'm trying to decide if I should get one case or not.

What bothers me is that the only available PSU for me would have to be the Silverstone 450w. Almost all reviews of that PSU on Newegg complain about the very very loud fan in it. That would usually not be an issue for me as I would just get a better fan for it. Nut here real estate is at a premium.

So, would there be enough room on the PSU to mount an fan on top of it where the 80mm fan is? This fan would be placed on.top of the other already installed fan. If you can understand what I mean here. I can mod a shroud for it. But would there be enought room there? A100mm or 120mm fan maybe?

 

Looks like quite a few ppl are thinking of switching out the fan, but honestly I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Maybe I got lucky and got a quiet one because even when I load it up (folding @ 100% CPU and GPU usage, all of it overclocked) I get a little coil whine but that's the worst of the noise. IE no PSU fan noise that's worse than the other fans in the system (AP-15s in my case).

 

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Can someone tell me the difference between the radiator screw types.
SAE 6-32, Metric M3 and Metric M4?
Did do some Googleing but not sure what im looking at/for.
Nice, let us know when you have a confirmed number.

 

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M3 and M4 are 3mm and 4mm respectively. SAE 6-32 is American size and means gauge 6 with 32 threads per inch. It's approx 3.5mm wide, and almost equivalent to M3.5 European size. These last ones are the screws that are often used in PC cases for mounting various parts like PSU and expansion brackets. If you don't know which radiator you're going to get, then pick the screws from which are harder to find in your country. I mean, SAE 6-32 is easy to find in US, while M3 screws are easy to find in Europe.
 

 

Looks like I need to add a FAQ question about this. I would encourage everyone to pick screws that will work with the rads they plan to use (or at least pick based on what you will most likely use). I say this because what's included are fully-threaded, countersunk, hex-head screws, and matching nuts will also be included that are there to add space between the air filters and fans (because I had interference issues on the prototype). Everything that'll be included is commercially available (at least in the US), but not what you commonly get with other cases or would otherwise have around the house. I'd hate for someone to order and wait a month to get their case only to start assembling it and find out their supply of extra 6-32/M3/M4 screws aren't the same. Don't panic if you already ordered... you'll have a chance to change your selection when I send out order confirmations next week.

 

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This case looks SICK AF! I'm on the website to place my order but I'm curious about fitting issues with my P8Z77-I Deluxe. It has this lip thing I'm sure you guys know of. If I put in the same WC'ing setup as your original, would it be an issue because of the lip of the motherboard?

Thanx
 

 

Thanks! thumb.gif The P8Z77-I Deluxe will fit perfectly. I actually used a model of one for the original design, and fun fact: the off-center 240 rad was originally placed to allow airflow past the daughterboard of the Asus mobo. Later I switched to an ASRock board but really liked the design so left it largely as-is. 

 

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It's official, I have #026 =]

 

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Looks like quite a few ppl are thinking of switching out the fan, but honestly I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Maybe I got lucky and got a quiet one because even when I load it up (folding @ 100% CPU and GPU usage, all of it overclocked) I get a little coil whine but that's the worst of the noise. IE no PSU fan noise that's worse than the other fans in the system (AP-15s in my case).

I know what you mean, the (unmodded) noise doesn't bother me either. But when I started testing different rad fans, I realised I couldn't make a fair judgement because the PSU fan was predominant. So I did the swap and the noisiest thing on the FT03-mini is now the rad pull fan (eLoop @ 1400rpm). I also have another ST45SF-G in my SG05 without the fan mod. I should put them next to each other one day and make a video.

Apparantly that coil whine is fixed in the V1.1 of the PSU. I get that sometimes as well, depending on which folding workunit.
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far out, up to 26 already!? biggrin.gif

can anybody give me some advice/ their opinion on this?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1375675/need-help-incorporating-a-removable-external-radiator-into-a-ssf-water-cooled-build-whats-the-deal-with-running-stuff-in-parallel/0_20
if you have lots of water-cooling experience and could help me out would be much appreciated!
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Thanks for all the info on the radiator screws.
Im 75% decided to go with the same rads as SLE, XSPC EX240 & EX120. I think it takes the SAE 6-32 but it would be great is somebody could confim this for me.

On another topic, anyone know any good black-pcb ram 16GB sticks? Kingston has just released some new black-PCB'd ram, but they stop at 8GB a stick. Still deciding on my colour scheme but if i go green/grey that won't be an issue. I get so OCD about the smalest bit of colour difference biggrin.gif.
    
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http://www.xs-pc.com/products/radiators/ex-series-radiators/ex120-single-fan-radiator/

"- Screws: 6-32 UNC"

And I don't think anything comes as 16GIG sticks... 8 is the max isn't it?

EDIT: All I can find is a single green 1333 Kingston. Weird.

FURTHER EDIT: I found a bunch of ECC Server RAM, but I'm pretty sure that won't work in any ITX boards.
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