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It's the 30nm Samsung Green "Wonder RAM".
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Just as a sneak preview, this is what I've been working on:



There are 8 UV CCFL's in the case. Yes, 8 CCFL's. I was able to put 4 inverters underneath the graphics card because I'm using a M.2 SSD. Unfortunately, the CCFL's are nowhere near as bright as the picture shows. Even though I haven't put in any UV reactive coolant yet, they barely give off enough light to illuminate the UV reactive spinners in the flow indicators. I was only able to get them to glow that bright by putting some UV LEDs in the acrylic plugs. I already picked up some UV LED tape, which hopefully will be brighter.

Oh, and I used rigid acrylic tubing everywhere without bending the acrylic. I ended up using a ton of fittings to do the bends for me. It also ended up costing a ton...

And this is what it looked like when it was almost fully assembled, you can see the Mod/Smart inverters at the bottom of the case:

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There's still a number of things I have to with it now though. One is to switch out the 600 RPM fans (Noiseblocker eLoop B12-1) with the 1300 RPM version (B12-2). The 600 RPM fans are capable of cooling the system when it's loaded, but the temps are a bit higher than I'd like them to be (GPU at 60 C, CPU at 85 C). I also need to replace all the CCFLs with LED strips and install a 3rd flow indicator where that crystal L block in the back is right now. I also changed the PSU fan out with a Noiseblocker fan, which significantly silenced it when the computer's idle. It's still a noisemaker when the computer's loaded though, so I'm going to swap it out with a 80x25mm fan by cutting out the metal cover on the PSU so that I can put the cooling fan half inside and half outside, then hot glue the fan on.
Edited by Ranma13 - 3/23/14 at 11:10pm
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LOVELY!
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The amount of bends you've used may warrant you to set the pump to a higher rpm range. Though you've gotta admit with Bitspower the only guys doing crystal link fittings/options...they are by far the most expensive line up to purchase. I can't vouch for you but I know there are people who literally give a spike in Bitspower graphs presented at chairman meetings with the purchases they've made biggrin.gif

Oh yesh, build log on the way? smile.gif
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The pump is a MCP35X, so I can easily adjust the speed through PWM. I tested with Furmark and found out that the pump at the highest speed doesn't perform any better than the pump at the lowest speed. I ran it for 30 minutes on the lowest setting and saw the graphics card hit about 50 C. I then let the system rest for about 30 minutes, then changed the pump to its highest speed. After 30 minutes, it was at 50 C as well.

As for a build log, I started off with the intention of doing one and took a ton of pictures. But as the days dragged on and I ran into multiple problems, my enthusiasm and motivation to do a build log slowly died as well. At this point, I may put together a "lessons learned" post, but it's probably a bit too late for a build log tongue.gif.
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Better late than never...rolleyes.gif though its your call. For sure your lessons would come in handy to the bro's and sisters here(thus the build log). I'll hopefully be starting off my build log and just making some preparatory work before I jump head first tongue.gif

The reason I brought the topic up about loop restriction is because of the pressure your pump needs to overcome. The less bends you have in a loop via 90 and 45 angles the less he stress put on your pump and the longer the chances are of your pump outlasting you tongue.gif however it isn't something worth writing home about...its just something I do when planning out a loop to make sure there isn't restriction in one however for a splash this is needed. Though the flow indicators add a good amount of restriction tot eh loop aside from the bends. the angled fittings cannot be avoided here but the flow meters can.

If you need pep talk to kick start a build log - I'd be glad to step up for the job! Honest!
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I'm well aware that the flow indicators will lower the performance of the pump, but they just look so darned cool tongue.gif. And I think flow rate is overrated anyway, especially in a small system like the Compact Splash.

I'll think about doing a build log. Maybe I'll feel better about it once everything's done. Right now I just want to finish it because it's twice past its budget and I still need to buy some additional parts to complete it all. I'll also do some more in-depth load tests to see how pump performance really affects temps.
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check check and check, Looking forward to that mate smile.gif
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And this is what it looked like when it was almost fully assembled, you can see the Mod/Smart inverters at the bottom of the case:
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Looks great smile.gif

I like that you are cooling the memory and I like the short runs between water-cooling parts. Two spinners is maybe little overkill, but DDC pumps are strong enough, so why not? tongue.gif
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Better late than never...rolleyes.gif though its your call. For sure your lessons would come in handy to the bro's and sisters here(thus the build log). I'll hopefully be starting off my build log and just making some preparatory work before I jump head first tongue.gif

The reason I brought the topic up about loop restriction is because of the pressure your pump needs to overcome. The less bends you have in a loop via 90 and 45 angles the less he stress put on your pump and the longer the chances are of your pump outlasting you tongue.gif however it isn't something worth writing home about...its just something I do when planning out a loop to make sure there isn't restriction in one however for a splash this is needed. Though the flow indicators add a good amount of restriction tot eh loop aside from the bends. the angled fittings cannot be avoided here but the flow meters can.

If you need pep talk to kick start a build log - I'd be glad to step up for the job! Honest!
Isn't the whole angled fittings having influence on flow thing a huge misconception? I remember reading a proof about this saying that you'll need an abnormal amount(far more than we need in our Splash) of 90s before you get anywhere close to the restriction of a single CPU block. And I've seen people running 4 GPU blocks, mobo blocks, RAM blocks and a CPU block in a single loop with 1 DDC pump only and it was more than sufficient. I don't think this will ever pose a problem or have influence on the pump's lifetime. wink.gif

What I do think will make a difference in pump lifetime is getting a heatsink for your DDC pump. My DDC pump(though faulty) got finger-burning hot whilst running. I'm still thinking about getting the EK DDC heatsink kit but I kind of dislike the idea of them purposely selling me a pump with overheating problems so I am forced to spend extra money.

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I'm stating my find from martinsliquidlab, bundymania and strens sites/reviews. There were a tonne of other watercooling reviewers but they slowly got occupied with other agendas. I tend to want my parts to last a while longer than usual. A MTBF number isn't any warning indicator and yes the flow meter in a loop does help you tell whether your pump is dying or even dead but for most watercoolers, you already have a spare pump in hand in case the operating pump goes bye bye.

Alot of people have attributed watercooling with performance parts in cars. Maintain them and they will serve you well in the time to come, neglect them and they can bite you in the rear at the worst possible time. Adding a heatsink will definitely help keep your pump around an operable temperature, stressing the pump will most definitely give you a shot bearing or worn impeller. Much like how a car after a race needs to undergo massive maintenance since they have been worn out. If you don't , you should be careful not to wager any bets on your next race ...

Being an architect I also have to think about sustainability biggrin.gif and the watercooling parts going into splash aren't exactly cheap tongue.gif

However I'm not advocating banning bends in watercoooling here. There is a time and place for everything - its best not to use it where it isn't needed smile.gif
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Win7 x64 ultimate Dual 24" monitors in P-P Corsair K95 Silverstone ST45SF-G 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Compact Splash 039 Razer Official SWTOR MMO mouse Razer Sphex "Serious Gaming" edition Cambridge Soundworks FPS-1000 
AudioOther
Supreme X-Fi software mod on SoundCore3D Razer Onza Tournament Edition 
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A10-6800K Asrock FM2A85X-ITX HD8670D OCZ Intel XMP edition 
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Samsung 840 series 256GB Western Digital 2.5" 2TB Swiftech H220 XSPC EX120 
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Primochill Advanced LRT 3/8" 5/8" Limited Editi... 3x GT AP-15 in push Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Dual 24" in portrait mode 
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Logitech G105 MW3 edition ST45SF-G Compact Splash 040 Logitech G9X MW3 edition 
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Steelseries QCK+ black ALC892 w/ THX TruStudio NETGEAR WNA3100-100NAR 
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Intel Q9550 Asus Rampage Extreme X48 XFX AMD 6870 Black Edition 1GB DDR5 Mushkin Redline Ridgeback 996982 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
WD 320GB Blue OS WD 500GB Green Raid 0 WD 500GB Blue Lite-on DVD RW 
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Lite-on DVD RW Aquacomputer AMS 360 D5 copper w/ vertical res ... XSPC Raystorm Copper Watercool Heatkiller NSB 3.0 
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Primochill LRT white - 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD DangerDen Perfect Seal 1/2" barbs Swiftech Radbox 3x Scythe GT AP-15's in push 
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Windows 7 x64 Ultimate Samsung P2350 Microsoft x6 Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 750W 
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Thermaltake Spedo w/ white LED mod Microsoft x8 Razer Goliathus SupremeFX X-Fi+ I-Trigue L3800 
Other
Lamptron FC-5 v2 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4770K EVGA Z87 Stinger w/ killer 1202 adapter GTX hydrocopper Mushkin Blackline Ridgeback 997073 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Crucial M4 256GB Western Digital 2TB notebook 240mm XSPC EX radiator 120mm XSPC EX radiator 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Nexxos XP3 Plexi v2 Edition Swiftech MCP35X Primochill Advanced LRT 3/8"ID x5/8"OD Elegant ... 3x 120mm Swiftech Helix 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win7 x64 ultimate Dual 24" monitors in P-P Corsair K95 Silverstone ST45SF-G 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Compact Splash 039 Razer Official SWTOR MMO mouse Razer Sphex "Serious Gaming" edition Cambridge Soundworks FPS-1000 
AudioOther
Supreme X-Fi software mod on SoundCore3D Razer Onza Tournament Edition 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800K Asrock FM2A85X-ITX HD8670D OCZ Intel XMP edition 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 840 series 256GB Western Digital 2.5" 2TB Swiftech H220 XSPC EX120 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Primochill Advanced LRT 3/8" 5/8" Limited Editi... 3x GT AP-15 in push Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Dual 24" in portrait mode 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G105 MW3 edition ST45SF-G Compact Splash 040 Logitech G9X MW3 edition 
Mouse PadAudioOther
Steelseries QCK+ black ALC892 w/ THX TruStudio NETGEAR WNA3100-100NAR 
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