Originally Posted by Blameless
Originally Posted by Sm0keydaBear
It's great that services can ban people for say hacking
I don't agree with this.
Personally, If I'm running a server, I want control of who stays and who goes, and of what constitutes acceptable behavior or not. Game wide enforcement of an arbitrary set of rules is a slap in the face to everyone who doesn't always share the vision of the developers and/or publishers.
I'm as against cheating as anyone, I just don't think it's the place of the publishers to define cheating or mandate game-wide rules and punishments regarding such things.
Yes, I understand what you are saying. You disagree with anyone who purchases a number of games and gets banned for cheating or the likes. Completely understandable argument, and I agree to a certain extent. I just feel that in online gaming, there is a huge rift between legitimate and illegitimate players. Some will cheat in online games, and I feel that those people deserve the banhammer if it involves them having an unfair advantage against their opponents. To me, that deserves the harshest punishment because there is absolutely not a reason for anyone to play with unfair advantages, unless they are somehow handicapped or disabled. The point I was trying to make with the statement of allowing services to decide who is cheating and who isn't, is from their perspective, they can see who has been playing fair, and who is playing unfair, unlike people like ourselves who play the games and try to play as fair as we possibly can because we don't like being pointed the finger at and saying "That's the person who was playing unfair!" because that is simply what I do not want to happen. Then again, I cannot also be the person who decides if that is what is happening.
We're entering a difficult time in terms of fairness and people playing with the rules. For an example, when I'm playing Black Ops II multiplayer and notice someone using an aimbot, it's very difficult for me as one person to take hold of the situation, even though it affects my situation as it ruins my KDR and my game as well. So how can we take care of this issue? To me, this is much alike the DRM of SimCity, except one key difference, and that's SimCity not having others be able to affect your game, so I can relate with those who are saying that the DRM for SimCity is blasphemous, because it really is.
Also, I understand your argument of being in control of what happens on your server and what does not, as that is the way I loved to play games in the past and actually wish we could bring that back, but the sad fact is that publishers will keep going at the throat for money, and we may never see that day again. Pretty much, we kind of have to take the slap to the face, and swallow our pride anyways... I do agree with what you mean, though.
One thing this guy wishes for is fair play on servers, so we don't need services such as Steam and the likes to need to dictate who gets banned for what.