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post #1 of 12
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I'm running a xspc raystorm kit with a rx240 rad!

I'm looking into getting a gpu and ram added to my loop.

Pumps
I'm still debating whether Swiftech MCP355 or MCP35x - help me!

For reservoir, is bigger better? Will having more than 1L of water in the loop allow the water to stay cooler or will all the water just get hotter and more water make it harder to cool off?

Rads
I want to put use to my rx240, it's not the best fit in my case so I'm considering hanging it in the back with a push pull setup. Will running a thin 240 rad and a thick one in the same loop mess with the cooling process? Iwant to add a standard sized 240mm rad up top with a push pull setup, as of now i only run a push setup due to space.



This will be a project for a few weeks, I'm going to do some research as I don't want to spend too much and I already have a decent system. If I had to change to much and I cant use it later I'd be bummed, eventually I want to purchase a large roomy case, but those are expensive! smile.gif

Sorry for the noob questions!
post #2 of 12
I use the MCP35X pump and haven't had a single issue with if over the past 8 months. I highly recommend it for anyone.

From what i understand about the way the cooling water temp works is that it all ends up about the same ambient temperature and its up to you if you want a big res or a small one.

I run a thin 240 rad and a thick 360 rad in my setup and haven't ever had any issues with it or ever heard of any issues with it.. also a few friends of mine do a similar thin/thick setup for space requirements.

Hope this helps.
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Pump
I don't see enough restriction there to warrant a DDC, I'd probably go for a D5 to keep it quieter without having to worry about vibration isolation.

Water Capacity
Having more water just means that it takes longer to warm to equilibrium and longer to cool back to ambient. It's not a concern.

Radiators
As long as you avoid sandwiching, the more the merrier. The key is the most amount of fresh air against the most amount of surface area. If you have tons of surface area, but are passing used air through it, the cooling affect will be greatly dimished.

Case
One the best deals for a roomy case is the NZXT Switch 810.
post #4 of 12
1. Pump : MCP35X is much powerful. But you'll have no problem with MCP355. Personally, I would go for MCP35X because there is not much price difference. Also, consider D5 pumps as well. They are quieter and able to provide enough flow for your system.

2. Reservoir : Amount of water doesn't matter in equilibrium. (sounds like an economist :-p) More water, more time to cool off or heat up. So more water might help maintaining lower temp while benching for a short time. But for gaming for several hours, it doesn't really matter.

3. Rads : No problem. You can have whatever profile of rads as you want.
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
thanks guys i really appreciate the help

the main reason i'm looking at MCP's instead of D5 is just the pressure


if i add a MCP355 or 35x with my setup will i gain performance or is the MCP going to burn the X20 from having so much pressure and increased flow?
post #6 of 12
dual pump setup

personally i run two ddc pumps in a series from bmaverick which you can pm him for more info.
as far as i can tell it does very little in terms of performance. and you can read more in the above link as well. thumb.gif
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by Ecks9T View Post

dual pump setup

personally i run two ddc pumps in a series from bmaverick which you can pm him for more info.
as far as i can tell it does very little in terms of performance. and you can read more in the above link as well. thumb.gif

Good information

im thinking of doing mine different since i have a xspc dual bay res with a x20 inside... i would probably have another rad in my setup and looking to have this pump at the end of the loop pushing into the dualbay+pump at the beginning

this is what im scared of since they are not pushing together it would be one pushing into another
post #8 of 12
found this

http://www.overclock.net/t/1003485/engadget-thermaltake-level-10-gt/40_20#post_13329972

looks like a slime 240 up top and a slim 120 at the rear?

maybe even another 120 at the bottom
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how about the Bitfenix Shinobi XL? One of the best budget cases I've seen to date.

No, more water doesnt mean colder smile.gif

DDC's are for systems with very little room..where possible stick with a D5 as it's quieter, less fail rate and very very reliable smile.gif and runs cooler too
if you're planning to run a bay res then get one of these:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_299&products_id=20466

hope i helped smile.gif
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post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by aeonoscence View Post

how about the Bitfenix Shinobi XL? One of the best budget cases I've seen to date.

No, more water doesnt mean colder smile.gif

DDC's are for systems with very little room..where possible stick with a D5 as it's quieter, less fail rate and very very reliable smile.gif and runs cooler too
if you're planning to run a bay res then get one of these:

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_299&products_id=20466

hope i helped smile.gif

my case is way larger than the shinobi ! tongue.gif

only reason im settling on a MCP is because they provide 14-15feet of pressure which no other pumps do, it made me feel so sad i bought a kit that had 5 feet of pressure, even though my flowrate is high, the pressure is low!

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_160_296&products_id=21957

thats what i have, and im wondering if i can add a mcp in my loop at the end before it feeds back to my res... i just want to find out if its going to burn my res's pump after a while due to the pressure difference flowing the stronger pump through the weaker pump or even vice versa

i wondered if i could take the x20 out of my res but im honestly even scared to consider/touch it
Edited by MegaHertz - 3/12/13 at 7:55am
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