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It seems like some relevant information has been removed from this thread - so I hope no one was interested in first hand experience based comparisons to make a buying decision - as those posts appear to be gone.* I myself found it fairly informative.....

Basically there was an explanation of what exactly the differences between LB and high refresh rates are - in addition to a healthy dose of reality concerning competitive gaming.





*This post might not last long itself - due to the fact that the others were removed.

Thread was cleaned due to rude disrespectful comments toward OCN members and any replies to said post regardless of info would have been removed as well. Your particular post you claimed was important info was also one of those replies.

Hope that clears up the missing info. Lets stay on topic now.
     
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Only real advantage that you get with an IPS screen are the viewing angles. Dont fall for the hype.

 

 

IPS tend to be more expensive than MVA / TN panel because it's new technology. Just keep in mind that a bad IPS screen will still be bad, even if it's aye pee ess. I'm quite sure that you would get more out of a 300$ A-MVA panel than out of a 300$ IPS.


Edited by splinterize - 3/31/13 at 7:35am
post #53 of 61
Speaking off LightBoost
It's not 3D related anymore.
It produces CRT quality motion for 2D gaming, 92% less motion blur than 60Hz LCD.
It is a stroboscopic backlight that successfully bypasses pixel persistence.

Measurements were made by several sources:

baseline - 60 Hz mode (16.7ms continuously-shining frame)
50% less motion blur (2x clearer) - 120 Hz mode (8.33ms continuously-shining frame)
60% less motion blur (2.4x clearer) - 144 Hz mode (6.94ms continuously-shining frame)
85% less motion blur (7x clearer) - 120 Hz LightBoost, set to 100% (2.4ms frame strobe flashes)
92% less motion blur (12x clearer) - 120 Hz LightBoost, set to 10% (1.4ms frame strobe flashes)

I've never tried IPS, i have no comment over that.
post #54 of 61
K, I ordered the VG248QE. I was turned off from the Dells because they're only IPS-E and have that sandy anti glare nonsense and lots of backlight bleed.
post #55 of 61
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Thread was cleaned due to rude disrespectful comments toward OCN members and any replies to said post regardless of info would have been removed as well. Your particular post you claimed was important info was also one of those replies.

Hope that clears up the missing info. Lets stay on topic now.

Edited my post to clear up any confusion.

On topic I appreciate the post by Warm explaining more details about lightburst (which were the details I found important in the removed post....)

I would be interested in the methodology of those tests - any link directly to the study or review would be appreciated.
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post #56 of 61
I did notice someone mentioned that there is no advantage for gaming when using a 120 hz.

Well, I've owned 3 120 hz panels and the difference is AMAZING. By the time an enemy saw me in BF3, I'd already put half a clip into them. My kill count went way up and I had a LOT MORE FUN.
post #57 of 61
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Originally Posted by Subcutaneous View Post

It seems like some relevant information has been removed from this thread - so I hope no one was interested in first hand experience based comparisons to make a buying decision - as those posts appear to be gone.* I myself found it fairly informative.....

Basically there was an explanation of what exactly the differences between LB and high refresh rates are - in addition to a healthy dose of reality concerning competitive gaming.


Edit: I do not claim to have posted any relevant information before - I was referring to others' posts. I am not knowledgeable in this area. (the area of refresh rate vs other factors)


*This post might not last long itself - due to the fact that the others were removed.

It's okay.

The difference between light boost and regular 120hz is very minimal. What it does is, between refreshes of the screen, flashes the screen black. Essentially washing it clean of the image it displayed before. This left over image from the previous frame that's close to or similar to the image being displayed in the new refresh is what can be conceived as or called motion blur/ghosting. So what light boost does is completely eliminate that.

Although the effect improvess the overall experience and is far more enjoyable to use because the image on screen will always be clearer than a traditional display, to say anyone not using it is at a disadvantage is going too far.

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I did notice someone mentioned that there is no advantage for gaming when using a 120 hz.

Well, I've owned 3 120 hz panels and the difference is AMAZING. By the time an enemy saw me in BF3, I'd already put half a clip into them. My kill count went way up and I had a LOT MORE FUN.

That's great you enjoy 120hz. Everybody does, however it does not increase your kill count, does not increase your reflexes and more importantly does not allow you to put half a clip into anyone before they see you. I don't think you quite understand the concept of how short milliseconds are. But whatever, you can claim whatever you want.
    
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I went to Microcenter over the weekend and remembering this thread, I checked out the monitor section. I looked at a couple of IPS monitors and I have to say, I wasn't really 'wowed'. Yeah the colors were more vivid, and I could still see the image clearly if I ducked down (which I don't understand the need for, who sits at these angles!? lol), but I saw nothing that was enough to make me say "TN's are garbage, cant believe I haven't switched yet."

Granted maybe the setting wasn't right, or the lighting in MC could have sucked, perhaps if I saw the monitor while gaming I would be convinced immediately but I was not. However I remember hooking up my 120Hz monitor for the first time, moving the mouse around the desktop and noticing how fluid it was. As soon as I saw that I knew it would be even more amazing in game.

Well I'm glad I checked out the monitor section over the weekend because I feel much more confident about my 120Hz monitor purchase and I know that for me the jump back down to 60Hz will never be worth more vibrant colors. I'm also now convinced more so that this IPS vs 120Hz argument is extremely subjective because people that swear by IPS panels must be seeing something that I'm not and there is nothing wrong with that! So my only advice would be to actually experience each for yourself because you may be like me and love smooth fluid movement or you may be a born IPS'er and need vibrant popping colors.

Just be warned: getting hooked on 120Hz also comes with the urge to constantly upgrade your GPU so that you can both max out games and have high FPS. biggrin.gif
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Only real advantage that you get with an IPS screen are the viewing angles. Dont fall for the hype.

i went from a $200 TN Panel to a $400 korean IPS panel. the difference in image quality is staggering in terms of colour and contrast. no matter how much i tweak my TN panel settings i cant get it to look nearly as vibrant a beautiful as my IPS screen. Colour and contrast are a thing, viewing angles are just a bonus.
    
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