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???? You stoned tonight man?


maybe? is this how nubs start off here? thinking.gif
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Yup this thread has turned out the way I thought it would..

Do we need to rewind to the all virus' are malware but not all malware is a virus.

Neither are good, but there are still no virus', OSX like Linux requires user interaction to install, which is the big reason there are not virus'. There is more malware now because of Apple gaining popularity and this will continue to increase over time. The best solution is not to run Java or Flash and add a script blocker same as any PC this is simple and basic stuff.
 
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Yup this thread has turned out the way I thought it would..

Do we need to rewind to the all virus' are malware but not all malware is a virus.

Neither are good, but there are still no virus', OSX like Linux requires user interaction to install, which is the big reason there are not virus'. There is more malware now because of Apple gaining popularity and this will continue to increase over time. The best solution is not to run Java or Flash and add a script blocker same as any PC this is simple and basic stuff.

what do you mean by user interaction? you mean it prompts you for your password to authorize?
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what do you mean by user interaction? you mean it prompts you for your password to authorize?

Yes you must enter a password i.e. you must let it on your system.
 
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what do you mean by user interaction? you mean it prompts you for your password to authorize?

Yes. In order for the majority of these exploits to happen on a Mac, you have to authorize them. They won't just show up one day after accidentally visiting a website.
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Yes. In order for the majority of these exploits to happen on a Mac, you have to authorize them. They won't just show up one day after accidentally visiting a website.

oh yeah, linux requires password input for a lot of the same things too. i don't see why windows would not add this to their design
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oh yeah, linux requires password input for a lot of the same things too. i don't see why windows would not add this to their design

They tried with the UAC but it is overly intrusive so most people just turn it off ( or down ) rendering it next to useless.
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This.... but Mac is still vulnerable. That's the whole point. by me.... not only is it an over priced gimmick... now it's liable to be infected like anything else... and still can't run like a PC. Apple is done.
No, no, no and no. The price is subjective to the consumer wants and needs; Macs aren't a gimmick; OS X's still not as prone to malware as Windows, and Macs run the same as a PC.

If you had read the article thoroughly you'd know that it is mere speculation that this malware bypassed Gatekeeper. It's not Mac-specific, either, it's a zero-day Java exploit which infected both Mac and Windows systems.


son.... I'm a vet when it comes to Apple... I'm that old. Don't pander to me about what you think. rolleyes.gif
That's a very high and mighty statement. As a "vet" of anything, you should be aware that posting in a forum will result in replies. If you aren't interested in replies, then don't post in the first place. I certainly will be -- so don't you pander to me about that rolleyes.gif

On topic, you completely evaded my point -- though I understand why, as it disagrees with your baseless assertions. Mac has been infected through Java exploits several times before over the last couple of years, so this is literally nothing new or unexpected. Both OS X and Windows can be infected by malware via Java and Flash exploits.

However as otherwise suggested by the article (which is sourced from another article, which is partly sourced from another article), it's not known whether Gatekeeper (Apple's security against malicious applications) was bypassed or not, they just speculate that it was.

I can't stress how little this actually has to do with Mac. Someone's just after clicks.
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Yes. In order for the majority of these exploits to happen on a Mac, you have to authorize them. They won't just show up one day after accidentally visiting a website.

oh yeah, linux requires password input for a lot of the same things too. i don't see why windows would not add this to their design

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oh yeah, linux requires password input for a lot of the same things too. i don't see why windows would not add this to their design

They tried with the UAC but it is overly intrusive so most people just turn it off ( or down ) rendering it next to useless.

Exactly what Shrak said. UAC was a pretty horrible attempt at locking down the system.

The problem also goes deeper, though, too. One article I read years ago put it pretty well "Coding on Windows is a paint-by-numbers kind of programming." Unix (and it's ugly, fragmented cousin Linux) are inherently more safe due to the structure of the OS, the use of Privilages, and the need for Admin (or, if you prefer "root") approval to install pretty much anything that could affect system files.

I'm not a fanboy either way. I think each has their own place in the world, I've used each, and there are benefits and flaws to each and ever single one. Until we have Tony Stark's "Jarvis," all OS's will still have pros and cons.

The problem is that here, on OCN, there's a lot of Anti-Mac drivel because 99.99999% of the people have never used a Mac, let alone any version of OS X. Seems that most have forgotten that this is an enthusiast site.
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Or because, ya know, they were right. There wasn't a single virus on OSX (and to my knowledge still isn't). Again, there's Trojans, Applescript, Unix, and Java exploits, but no Virus.

yeah, true no virus. in fact it seems almost everything else but, a virus is the is norm. I find my self scanning for maleware more than i do viruses.
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