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post #31 of 105
How good or bad Firefox is, isn't necessarily the point.

Try looking at the situation again, however this time, stop looking through a straw.
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This kind of thing is why I have a Galaxy S III. None of this doe-eyed 'Apple is my master' stuff....
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Not sure if serious, or people really liking a closed OS.
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post #34 of 105
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And where're the EU to fine Apple?

Still persecuting Microsoft, wasting time.
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Considering the reason Apple doesn't allow third party browsers to compile/run/interpret their own code is for security, I don't see them changing their ways.
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post #36 of 105
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lolnoonecares.

Safari is perfectly fine. I don't want to use a browser with a garbage rendering engine like Firefox.
Can you be more ignorant?
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Considering the reason Apple doesn't allow third party browsers to compile/run/interpret their own code is for security, I don't see them changing their ways.
Or maybe they are just afraid of competition.
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Seriously, never knew that so many people love having no choice in their matter and would much rather be told what to do and use. Oh wait, no I did know that, it is called modern society.

But on topic, it is funny that so many people don't know that the only reason chrome and safari are any good these days is due to FireFox.
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Seriously, never knew that so many people love having no choice in their matter and would much rather be told what to do and use. Oh wait, no I did know that, it is called modern society.

But on topic, it is funny that so many people don't know that the only reason chrome and safari are any good these days is due to FireFox.

Even worse, they like to CHOOSE which platform et al should be allowed to provide zero choice. (i.e. Windows 8 gets killed because apparently it forces you into "Metro", which for the record, I despise both Apple for the browser crap and Microsoft forthe usage of "Metro" in its forcefulness).
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Considering the reason Apple doesn't allow third party browsers to compile/run/interpret their own code is for security, I don't see them changing their ways.
Or maybe they are just afraid of competition.
For arguments sakes let's say they are -- it doesn't exclude the fact that allowing web browsers to do those things would open security holes in iOS.
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Seriously, never knew that so many people love having no choice in their matter and would much rather be told what to do and use. Oh wait, no I did know that, it is called modern society.
It's not about that. It's whether or not such and such is a big enough inconvenience to warrant switching to a different OS. I doubt most would care about this.
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For arguments sakes let's say they are -- it doesn't exclude the fact that allowing web browsers to do those things would open security holes in iOS.

I don't agree. Sure, there's the potential to have security flaws. But there's also potential for iOS as a platform, and Safari to have its own security holes. Third party browsers have to render using UIWebview - ouch, what happens if there's a security flaw there? I don't know how many third party browsers out there are in the store currently using UIWebview, but one security hole could affect a wide range of apps that rely on UIWebview because that's all Apple has provided. There's potential everywhere and it's all just theory.

I get that Apple is probably trying to help security by disallowing browsers to get their own feet wet, but I think it reeks of distrust on Apple's part. Opera, Firefox and Chrome are well received browsers, and I'm sure they know a thing or two about security. Sure, little Jimmy down the road who wants to make a web browser probably doesn't, but then he probably wouldn't even know where to start anyway. To solve this issue, Apple can simply require third party REAL browsers be digitally signed (and no, the fee does not go to Apple - a third party signing service can be used). Other developers can continue to use UIWebview if they want.

The same goes for Windows Phone (of which I have one and am very proud of).
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