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Hello!

I know this is a regular question, but I'm looking for a new case for my watercooled system:
  • Intel Core i5-3570K,
  • 2-way CrossFire of AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB,
  • Swiftech MCP655 pump with a Koolance top,
  • One or two 360 radiators (not yet decided),
  • Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 fans, with DIY analog voltage control (not PWM).
Everything being 'gently' overclocked.
My concern is that experience proved me the choice of the case could play a crucial role in the chase for a silent system, especially with such systems who may suffer from structural noise (e.g. pump vibration transmission and amplification).

I owned many cases before, from the very low-end mid-tower to the high-end Lian-Li (PC-101B) and CoolerMaster (ATC-201B-SXT, best finish I've ever seen!) aluminum cases, including some nice cases from Antec (1030B, Sonata, P180...) and Zalman (HD160 Plus, an ATX HTPC case). I used to change often 'cause I never got really satisfied…:shrug:
I love the look and the finish of aluminum cases, understated but elegant. Unfortunately they're also prone to structural noise and vibrations.
On the other side, I wasn't very pleased with my P180. Noise transmission was OK (even if HDD mounts could have been better!), but the inside layout was a real mess with no room for watercooling, cable management was a disaster and aesthetic and finish dubious.
More and more I read post on forums, more I'm lost and can't determine which case could combine aesthetic, a sturdy structure not prone to structural noise and enough room for my watercooling system.

Any advice is welcome!

Thanks,

Fred

PS : I plan to buy vibration mounts (for the pump and the HDDs), a high density material to cover the case panels (to reduce structural noise and vibration transmission) and maybe acoustic foam (to absorb aerial noise) from a specialized supplier. Experience proved me the two first solutions to be very efficient, especially in aluminum cases.smile.gif

PS2 : Please note that I live in France and – unfortunately – importing a Case Labs case would be VERY expensive (something like USD700-800 for a SM8 with few options).
post #2 of 29
I'm using the NZXT Switch 810 and with all the case fans running as well as my radiator fans, pump, and with ANY sound coming out of my speakers I don't hear it. At all.
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FT02 with a 540 rad
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Originally Posted by SpykeZ View Post

I'm using the NZXT Switch 810 and with all the case fans running as well as my radiator fans, pump, and with ANY sound coming out of my speakers I don't hear it. At all.
I'm sure it's a very nice case, but I don't like the aesthetic at all.
Quote:
Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

FT02 with a 540 rad
The SilverStone FT02 really sounds like an interesting option.
I'm very curious about the rotated motherboard layout and the steel chassis/aluminium front bezel construction should help in reducing structural noise.
However, I have some concerns:
  • From my point of view aesthetic is OK, but not as appealing as other competitors (Lian-Li...). I have to see the case to check some details, in particular the consistency of the panels made with different materials and finish.
  • In spite of the three 180 mm fans, it seems there is really little room (in the vertical direction) at the bottom of the case, especially with long graphic cards like mine are. It means reduced options regarding the choice of the rad (thin model, like the expensive and not so efficient Maxicool) and fans (can't use a shrood)...

Thanks for your replies!
post #5 of 29
Well frankly it's actually not a problem.

That's alot of space and it's a 7970 too. Just don't try to be a smart aleck and put a 6990 in there tongue.gif
Edited by DaveLT - 3/12/13 at 12:25pm
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post #6 of 29
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Originally Posted by DaveLT View Post

Well frankly it's actually not a problem.

That's alot of space and it's a 7970 too. Just don't try to be a smart aleck and put a 6990 in there tongue.gif
Yeah, but there is no watercooling rad on your picture and a rad can be thick. wink.gif

Looking at the picture, you have to remove the hard drives cage to install a long rad and you will probably be limited in thickness.
Moreover, if 3 * 180 mm rads offer a great a surface, they're also expensive and the choice is limited.
Finally, I'm not sure 180 mm fans offer the best airflow/noise ratio. 140 mm fan proved not to be more efficient than their 120 mm cousins, in particular in terms of vibrations, bearing noise and motor noise. And so the limited height may avoid the use of smaller fans with a shroud... Not talking about push/pull (which is the most efficient solution IMHO, if you forget the cost.)

I'm not saying FT02 is not an alternative. Actually, I'm seriously considering buying it.
But I'd really love to see a similar design in a bit taller case and with a slightly different aesthetic (more elegant, even if it very subjective).

Cheers.
Edited by webzeb - 3/12/13 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by webzeb View Post

Yeah, but there is no watercooling rad on your picture!

And a rad can be thick.
I know. That's a problem now tongue.gif
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Edited my post above, take a look. wink.gif
post #9 of 29
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Originally Posted by webzeb View Post

The SilverStone FT02 really sounds like an interesting option.
I'm very curious about the rotated motherboard layout and the steel chassis/aluminium front bezel construction should help in reducing structural noise.
However, I have some concerns:
  • From my point of view aesthetic is OK, but not as appealing as other competitors (Lian-Li...). I have to see the case to check some details, in particular the consistency of the panels made with different materials and finish.
  • In spite of the three 180 mm fans, it seems there is really little room (in the vertical direction) at the bottom of the case, especially with long graphic cards like mine are. It means reduced options regarding the choice of the rad (thin model, like the expensive and not so efficient Maxicool) and fans (can't use a shrood)...

Thanks for your replies!

well you can always go with the safe route and get a TJ07
Or if you want overkill you can always go with a TJ11. but that would seriously bump up your budget biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by webzeb View Post

Yeah, but there is no watercooling rad on your picture and a rad can be thick. wink.gif

Looking at the picture, you have to remove the hard drives cage to install a long rad and you will probably be limited in thickness.
Moreover, if 3 * 180 mm rads offer a great a surface, they're also expensive and the choice is limited.
Finally, I'm not sure 180 mm fans offer the best airflow/noise ratio. 140 mm fan proved not to be more efficient than their 120 mm cousins, in particular in terms of vibrations, bearing noise and motor noise. And so the limited height may avoid the use of smaller fans with a shroud... Not talking about push/pull (which is the most efficient solution IMHO, if you forget the cost.)

I'm not saying FT02 is not an alternative. Actually, I'm seriously considering buying it.
But I'd really love to see a similar design in a bit taller case and with a slightly different aesthetic (more elegant, even if it very subjective).

Cheers.

Here's one of our own members youtube videos, he did a build log a year or so ago now with it; You can really get an idea about how much you can do with it.

You can also check out lowfats build;

http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/3960297
Edited by Shrak - 3/12/13 at 12:44pm
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