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Updated with part 2, March 20th 2013!




(video is the source)

Well, yet another reviewer has thrown down the gauntlet on this super-popular comparison and a lot of people seem to love the guy, so what the heck.

I think he's sugarcoating FX8350's results a bit too much, but that's probably me :S
Edited by Tippy - 3/22/13 at 11:57pm
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This isn't really news...
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This isn't really news...
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(video is the source)

Well, yet another reviewer has thrown down the gauntlet on this super-popular comparison and a lot of people seem to love the guy, so what the heck. Is the lack of AA skewing results a bit? Are the overclocks valid?
I think he's sugarcoating FX8350's results a bit too much, but that's probably me :S

Also are 95% of people really not pushing their 3570K further than 4.2ghz? Seems weird considering that's only 400mhz higher than the chip's default 3.8ghz boost. 4.6ghz on the FX8350 seems pretty solid though.

Dunno about the 8350 but 3570K users should be pushing way more than 42x. My 3550 does 41x on stock cooler, so 3570K users should be pushing at least 45x to justify the cost.
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Pretty much expected results. Again, it shows that Logan has no idea what he's doing.

That said, I do think the choice of video card is more problematic than lack of AA. Generally when you're benching for CPU performance, you want the single fastest GPU you can find. We all know he has a Titan, so he should have tested with that. I know the general argument counter to that is that it's a mid-range build with a mid-range card, but people generally upgrade their video card at least once.

I do feel that he's sugar coating the FX-8350 a little bit though. I love it in certain tasks, but it's really hopeful to think that just because the next gen consoles are using x86 AMD processors we'll see better multi-core support from developers. I'd be willing to bet that we don't really see developers pushing the hardware and coding for it properly until a good four years into the console's lifespan...pretty much what we saw with the PS3 and Xbox 360.
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Yeah Im pretty sure that just about every chip could do minimum of 4.4ghz np. 4.2 does seem a little low
    
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That said, I do think the choice of video card is more problematic than lack of AA. Generally when you're benching for CPU performance, you want the single fastest GPU you can find. We all know he has a Titan, so he should have tested with that. I know the general argument counter to that is that it's a mid-range build with a mid-range card, but people generally upgrade their video card at least once.
Generally yes, also at a lower resolution. Ideally he would've used a Titan and lowered the resolution to 720p, you would see framerates run into the 100's (the GPU bottleneck will become non-existent) and we would've seen which CPU truly charged ahead when given full control of the framerates. I get that.

BUT...and this is a big but...how on earth does one explain such notable performance differences with a mere 660 Ti? I'm going to be honest, when he said 660 Ti I immediately thought "hold that's going to bottleneck everything, the results will be the same for both chips!". But only 1 or 2 games had near-identical results, the rest were showing noticeable differences...with a 660 Ti. I don't get it mad.gif
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Will watch the video now. In my opinion testing an FX-8350 and an i5-3570k with a titan isn't ideal scenario-If you can afford 1k on a gpu you most likely can pair it with an intel extreme i7.

Edit. Watched it. He isn't sugarcoating anything imho. Graphics-wise he does something similar to what logan did, he used a card that isn't top tier- 7870 there,660ti here. That's the reason he isn't doing AA-the performance would tank and he'd be gpu limited most of time. There is a question on i5-3570k clocks. How many of you that have one undelidded and use similar cooling can keep temps under control during stressing? He may tried 4.5 and got uncomfortable but that's a wild guess.
Other than that visheras benefit alot by faster ram, not sure about ivies- so he didn't do any favor to the AMD one by benching it at 1600. All in all pretty similar test to those that logan does-very straightforward almost "pedestrian" and not really sophisticated.
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yes, we knew about Crysis 3 and it might be a sign of things to come, AMD FX CPU's became much more appealing, especially since I do want to upgrade my CPU, but there is really nothing worth upgrading to. I don't want to pay 500$ for a 6-core and I don't need 4-channel memory nonsense, but it is the only worthy upgrade for me. I am waiting so long for Intel to make a hexa-core on a mainstream platform that I am losing my patience. If AMD fixes single-core performance by >15% for their next gen. I would go back to them and buy a 6-core CPU.
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Pretty much expected results. Again, it shows that Logan has no idea what he's doing.

Pretty much what I was thinking. At least he used a decent motherboard, but the GPU should have been at least a 7970/680/Titan or something to pump out the max potential there.

I thought it was funny that he mentioned teksyndicate's review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc) as it has to be the worst reviews ever created. Using an EVGA Stinger motherboard for the 3570k and claiming it's "not bad for overclocking at all." At least he wasn't that stupid.
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