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Single-threaded performance for AMD's Piledriver(Bulldozer 2.0) is not well compared to i5 3570k, but you din't look at other factors...

AMD Piledriver - "Vishera"(Bulldozer 2.0) FX 8350 is a 32nm processors while Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3570k is an 22nm processor and we can see that a 32nm processor from AMD can compete with 22nm processor. I won't comment on Starcraft 2, it has a terrible engine. Anyway Intel has advantage over AMD since they are simply shrinking down Core 2 Duo architecture that is derived from Pentium 3 and just implement tweaks and rarely some changes everytime they hit the god damn brick wall.
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The Starcraft results just don't make any sense at all. I understand when a game values IPC over threading, but this is Starcraft! It's not Crysis! A 660 Ti is completely overkill for that game, yet FX8350 is chugging at 49fps?

Starcraft 2 only makes use of two cores and is a fairly CPU intensive game. Those results make perfect sense and are consistent with every other review I've seen out there.
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Single-threaded performance for AMD's Piledriver(Bulldozer 2.0) is not well compared to i5 3570k, but you din't look at other factors...

AMD Piledriver - "Vishera"(Bulldozer 2.0) FX 8350 is a 32nm processors while Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3570k is an 22nm processor and we can see that a 32nm processor from AMD can compete with 22nm processor. I won't comment on Starcraft 2, it has a terrible engine. Anyway Intel has advantage over AMD since they are simply shrinking down Core 2 Duo architecture that is derived from Pentium 3 and just implement tweaks and rarely some changes everytime they hit the god damn brick wall.
You think nehalem or the bridges originates from PIII? Wow.
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post #224 of 338
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Starcraft 2 only makes use of two cores and is a fairly CPU intensive game. Those results make perfect sense and are consistent with every other review I've seen out there.

Exactly. I honestly don't know why SC2 is included, it's a known fact the lower IPC kills the FX platform in any game that uses less than quad's. A dual threaded game it get's beat pretty badly for the most part - assuming no gpu bottleneck that is. SC2 is a fine example.

Again, part 2 just shows what we already knew...
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I like that Linus fellow. He's got a great attitude and screen presence.

So the overall conclusion I got from those videos was that there is no difference worth getting excited about.
    
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Exactly. I honestly don't know why SC2 is included, it's a known fact the lower IPC kills the FX platform in any game that uses less than quad's. A dual threaded game it get's beat pretty badly for the most part - assuming no gpu bottleneck that is. SC2 is a fine example.

Again, part 2 just shows what we already knew...

Because SC2 is being played more then all those games tested and is a true PC game. Its not like its a old game. The new expansion just came out.
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You think nehalem or the bridges originates from PIII? Wow.

Actually, Intel has incrementially changed the P6 architecture (Pentium Pro) into what became Conroe, then Penryn, etc.

Pentium Pro
Pentium II/III
Pentium III Coppermine (I believe that was the actual change, the original Pentium III was a Pentium II with SSE support...literally)
Pentium M
Core
Core 2
Core i7

That's not to say that you could still find actual circuitry from a Pentium III/Pro in a Ivy Bridge, but you can clearly trace the evolution over time. The only truly new architecture Intel made recently was Netburst iirc, even the Atom and Larrabee were based off the P5 iirc.
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I like that Linus fellow. He's got a great attitude and screen presence.

So the overall conclusion I got from those videos was that there is no difference worth getting excited about.

It has been this way for a long while actually. People addicted to synthetic benchmark results will tell you otherwise, and then proceed to cherry pick results to bolster their stance.

Right now, with rare exception, people can literally buy the lowest cost offering on the higher end of Intel or AMD and be perfectly fine and happy. If I had to give a "edge" to one side, I would say AMD, as AMD is sticking with their current socket for a few more years. Intel has gone to 1150, from 1155, anyone that wants to upgrade to Hawell needs a new board.
    
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anyone that wants to upgrade to Hawell needs a new board.
The primary motive behind buying an Intel chip is that you don't NEED to upgrade for many years. For e.g. my i5 2500K will match an FX8350 in almost every game, easily....and that's not counting in overclocks, which only widens the gap.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/880-13/amd-fx-8350-review-is-amd-back.html.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-14.html
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The primary motive behind buying an Intel chip is that you don't NEED to upgrade for many years. For e.g. my i5 2500K will match an FX8350 in almost every game, easily....and that's not counting in overclocks, which only widens the gap.

http://www.behardware.com/articles/880-13/amd-fx-8350-review-is-amd-back.html.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/6
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-14.html

You don't for an AMD chip either, you can link me to benchmarks all day but I certainly haven't seen any major difference apart from the obvious games...and CPU limited games are only going to gain more performance on the FX-8350 than your 2500k, since it's the faster chip in a good portion of non-gaming scenarios.
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