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The right comparison is : AMD FX 8350+1866MHz/2133MHz VS Intel i5 3570K+1333MHz/1600MHz .
Then see what happens.thumb.gif
Alatar beat me to it so I will add this...
the FX-8350 will still lose but possibly have the advantage in heavily mutli-threaded apps.
gaming it would lose no question..
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let's not go there.... because in reality it (FX-83xx) is also a quad core... tongue.gif

In windows it shows 4 cores/ 8 logical processors.
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Also are 95% of people really not pushing their 3570K further than 4.2ghz? Seems weird considering that's only 400mhz higher than the chip's default 3.8ghz boost.

Keep in mind that 3.4 is the defualt clock for 4 cores and for turbo boost its 3.5 for 4 cores, 3.6 for 3 cores, 3.7 for 2 cores, 3.8 for 1 core. So that's a 700 mhz boost over the turbo boost default for 4 cores.
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let's not go there.... because in reality it (FX-83xx) is also a quad core... tongue.gif

In windows it shows 4 cores/ 8 logical processors.
gotta love AMD modules huh...? rolleyes.gif SMT much.? tongue.gif
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Whaf if the 3570K is at 4.6 GHz to make this benchmark fair ?

This argument is tiring. It's a different architecture. Besides, if you want to say it isn't "fair" consider that a stock 3570k runs at 3.4ghz so an overclock to 4.2ghz is a 800mhz jump. On the other hand, taking a 8350 to 4.6ghz is only a 600mhz jump. The FX-8350 is also on average 20-30 bucks cheaper then the i5 3570k if 'fair' is going to come into play.

The real player here that doesn't get enough credit is the 8320 though, with a mild stock speed of 3.5ghz, most are able to easily hit 4.4ghz+ plus with same volts as a 8350 and when most are at $175 shipped it only goes to show how overlooked it is.

Unlike on the ivy side anything cheaper then the 3570k is locked down and can't be overclocked nearly as easily.

Bottom line, both are good gaming processors and the FX's future with more games using newer engines will not only cut the gap in performance out, but push it in it's favor, all for less $$.
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This argument is tiring. It's a different architecture. Besides, if you want to say it isn't "fair" consider that a stock 3570k runs at 3.4ghz so an overclock to 4.2ghz is a 800mhz jump. On the other hand, taking a 8350 to 4.6ghz is only a 600mhz jump. The FX-8350 is also on average 20-30 bucks cheaper then the i5 3570k if 'fair' is going to come into play.

The real player here that doesn't get enough credit is the 8320 though, with a mild stock speed of 3.5ghz, most are able to easily hit 4.4ghz+ plus with same volts as a 8350 and when most are at $175 shipped it only goes to show how overlooked it is.

Unlike on the ivy side anything cheaper then the 3570k is locked down and can't be overclocked nearly as easily.

Bottom line, both are good gaming processors and the FX's future with more games using newer engines will not only cut the gap in performance out, but push it in it's favor, all for less $$.

I got mine for $160.
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This argument is tiring. It's a different architecture. Besides, if you want to say it isn't "fair" consider that a stock 3570k runs at 3.4ghz so an overclock to 4.2ghz is a 800mhz jump. On the other hand, taking a 8350 to 4.6ghz is only a 600mhz jump. The FX-8350 is also on average 20-30 bucks cheaper then the i5 3570k if 'fair' is going to come into play.

The real player here that doesn't get enough credit is the 8320 though, with a mild stock speed of 3.5ghz, most are able to easily hit 4.4ghz+ plus with same volts as a 8350 and when most are at $175 shipped it only goes to show how overlooked it is.

Unlike on the ivy side anything cheaper then the 3570k is locked down and can't be overclocked nearly as easily.

Bottom line, both are good gaming processors and the FX's future with more games using newer engines will not only cut the gap in performance out, but push it in it's favor, all for less $$.

nope wrong. an i5 3570k stock is at 3.8ghz with boost and everyone who owns one knows that it's basically 3.8ghz out of the box. 4.2-4.3ghz overclock is attainable WITH STOCK VOLTAGE. I had an FX8320 at one point and the max I could get it was 4.7ghz. just a little above what Linus clocked the 8350. 4.2ghz OC on an i5 3570k is laughable. they have an h100 as a cooler for crying out loud. he could've clocked it to at least 4.5ghz
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all for less $$.

Does anyone on this forum understand total cost of ownership? The large difference in power consumption between the 8350 and the 3570k would quickly add up making the 3570k the cheaper purchase sooner than you would think despite the higher retail cost. After that point it would keep saving you money compared to the 8350 build.
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nope wrong. an i5 3570k stock is at 3.8ghz with boost and everyone who owns one knows that it's basically 3.8ghz out of the box. 4.2-4.3ghz overclock is attainable WITH STOCK VOLTAGE. I had an FX8320 at one point and the max I could get it was 4.7ghz. just a little above what Linus clocked the 8350. 4.2ghz OC on an i5 3570k is laughable. they have an h100 as a cooler for crying out loud. he could've clocked it to at least 4.5ghz

So you would agree then that you can say the FX-8350 is basically 4.2ghz out of the box since it turbo's to 4.2 as well when less threads are used? Even if that's the case, that's 400mhz from turbo on the FX, 400mhz from turbo on the 3570k.

Regardless, even if they did bump the 3570k to 4.5ghz from 4.2, a whopping 300mhz, the results wouldn't have been all that different so I still really don't see what the fuss is about? tongue.gif
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Does anyone on this forum understand total cost of ownership? The large difference in power consumption between the 8350 and the 3570k would quickly add up making the 3570k the cheaper purchase sooner than you would think despite the higher retail cost. After that point it would keep saving you money compared to the 8350 build.

Oh I fully do, and I'm a bit more realistic about it. I don't fold 24/7 and I know a majority of people don't use FX's to fold regardless so the point is moot. Not only that, with most things NOT being mutlithreaded and using as much cpu resources, it's very rare to ever see my cpu go over 50% usage so it's not like it's drawing a ton of power.

In the day to day reality of it by the time the 3570k would pay for itself, you'd have already upgraded, at least in the states. I mean come on people, this isn't comparing a cost of ownership like a car where gas mileage will really put a hurt on your wallet.
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