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NOT AGAIN!

1. HWBot IS for the OCing pros. Not the everyday *clickety clack* OC'er
2. 8350 comes close to 3570k tongue.gif
3. Significant, yes. But will it affect your power bill much? NO. smile.gif Unless you run P95 24/7 365 days a year



1. It still shows relative average for the chips, unless you are implying a 3570k is more difficult to overclock... I can push an auto overclock button on my board and have it at 4.6 if I wanted (again not that I would but I could)
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3. its like a 70w difference iirc, someone who has their rig on 24/7 like me that adds up over a year, and considering they are close in price that tips it in favor of the 3570k for me
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I still say " Steamroller" will be slower then Sandy Bridge Clock for clock.

Seeing how amd likes to market high stock Mhz.. watch Steam roller Ipc only be 10% faster then pile driver but come with a 300mhz higher clock 4.5ghz vs 4.2ghz....

Kinda like they did with BD vs PD.

You over clock an 8150 to 4.2ghz is is almost even with an 8350 in everything besides gaming...

Here we go with the pointless IPC (instruction per clock) argument again. It is irrelevant how far behind the IPC is of whatever architecture, only the IPS (instruction per second) matters.

Intel manage higher IPS through higher clocks but you ignore that point and laugh at AMD.
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post #324 of 338
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1. It still shows relative average for the chips, unless you are implying a 3570k is more difficult to overclock... I can push an auto overclock button on my board and have it at 4.6 if I wanted (again not that I would but I could)
2.
3. its like a 70w difference iirc, someone who has their rig on 24/7 like me that adds up over a year, and considering they are close in price that tips it in favor of the 3570k for me

Sb/IB are the most Easy Chips to OC ever lol.

Turn power saving features off change the multi and voltage save and quit boot up run stress test lol.
    
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Sb/IB are the most Easy Chips to OC ever lol.

Turn power saving features off change the multi and voltage save and quit boot up run stress test lol.

You don't even have to turn the power saving features off. Just set the multi and voltage and you're good
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I still say " Steamroller" will be slower then Sandy Bridge Clock for clock.

Seeing how amd likes to market high stock Mhz.. watch Steam roller Ipc only be 10% faster then pile driver but come with a 300mhz higher clock 4.5ghz vs 4.2ghz....

Kinda like they did with BD vs PD.

You over clock an 8150 to 4.2ghz is is almost even with an 8350 in everything besides gaming...

Here we go with the pointless IPC (instruction per clock) argument again. It is irrelevant how far behind the IPC is of whatever architecture, only the IPS (instruction per second) matters.

Intel manage higher IPS through higher clocks but you ignore that point and laugh at AMD.
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Here we go with the pointless IPC (instruction per clock) argument again. It is irrelevant how far behind the IPC is of whatever architecture, only the IPS (instruction per second) matters.

Intel manage higher IPS through higher clocks but you ignore that point and laugh at AMD.


http://hwbot.org/compare/processors#2493,2495,2689-3,6,7,8,9,13,14,15,16,33,34,43,48,55,60

    
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Here we go with the pointless IPC (instruction per clock) argument again. It is irrelevant how far behind the IPC is of whatever architecture, only the IPS (instruction per second) matters.

Intel manage higher IPS through higher clocks but you ignore that point and laugh at AMD.


http://hwbot.org/compare/processors#2493,2495,2689-3,6,7,8,9,13,14,15,16,33,34,43,48,55,60

I know man, I know.... headscratch.gif
post #329 of 338
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Does anyone on this forum understand total cost of ownership? The large difference in power consumption between the 8350 and the 3570k would quickly add up making the 3570k the cheaper purchase sooner than you would think despite the higher retail cost. After that point it would keep saving you money compared to the 8350 build.
I have debunked that myth over and over again and even responded to one of your posts, and there are several videos on youtube debunking that myth.

Why do you refuse to read information you don't like?

Your definition of 'quickly adding up' would take 2 years of 24/7 folding to break even in costs. I also get the pleasure of using the same motherboard for 3 CPUs. A cost difference that would take over 10 years 24/7 folding to break even.

Power is 8c per KILOWATT HOUR where I live.

Perspective: You would save MORE money exchanging one incandescent light-bulb to halogen.
Perspective: You would save MORE money removing your phone charger from the wall when not charging.
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I also get the pleasure of using the same motherboard for 3 CPUs.

I guess it's a "pleasure" to recycle motherboards since AMD hasn't seen fit to even include native PCIe 3.0 support on their boards and probably won't for 2+ years, right? At least Intel has actual innovations on their new boards. Then again, AMD doesn't have the money to pay their engineers to design competitive CPUs, let alone chipsets.
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A cost difference that would take over 10 years 24/7 folding to break even. Power is 8c per KILOWATT HOUR where I live.

Congratulations on being located next to a hydroelectric dam. And I'm sure that you're not ignoring the additional incremental cost in getting a power supply that's at least 100w higher that you'd otherwise get for a similarly-overclocked i5/i7, right?

Then again, looking at your sig rig I noticed you're using an 850w PSU for just an 8320 and a single 7970. So I guess you already overpaid for your PSU as it is. Way to go.
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I have debunked that myth over and over again and even responded to one of your posts, and there are several videos on youtube debunking that myth.

By the way, in the real world Youtube isn't a valid primary source. These days making a slanted video on the internet is so easy, even an AMD fanboy can do it.
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