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Originally Posted by jprovido View Post

nope wrong. an i5 3570k stock is at 3.8ghz with boost and everyone who owns one knows that it's basically 3.8ghz out of the box.

But 3.8 is only on a single core, something to keep in mind.
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This must be the Tek Syndicate video that everyone is talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE
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post #43 of 338
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nope wrong. an i5 3570k stock is at 3.8ghz with boost and everyone who owns one knows that it's basically 3.8ghz out of the box. 4.2-4.3ghz overclock is attainable WITH STOCK VOLTAGE. I had an FX8320 at one point and the max I could get it was 4.7ghz. just a little above what Linus clocked the 8350. 4.2ghz OC on an i5 3570k is laughable. they have an h100 as a cooler for crying out loud. he could've clocked it to at least 4.5ghz

Very much this. I think people are aware that on average a 8350 will clock a bit higher than a 3570K but the difference isn't 400MHz, at least not in my opinion.

I would like to have seen something like 4.5GHz on the i5 and 4.7 on the FX. These are clocks that almost anyone can attain with reasonable cooling and enough time for a few stress tests.
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Originally Posted by Malcom28 View Post

check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjCrlq2Lf5k

Cherry picking galore.
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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

This argument is tiring. It's a different architecture. Besides, if you want to say it isn't "fair" consider that a stock 3570k runs at 3.4ghz so an overclock to 4.2ghz is a 800mhz jump. On the other hand, taking a 8350 to 4.6ghz is only a 600mhz jump. The FX-8350 is also on average 20-30 bucks cheaper then the i5 3570k if 'fair' is going to come into play.

The real player here that doesn't get enough credit is the 8320 though, with a mild stock speed of 3.5ghz, most are able to easily hit 4.4ghz+ plus with same volts as a 8350 and when most are at $175 shipped it only goes to show how overlooked it is.

Unlike on the ivy side anything cheaper then the 3570k is locked down and can't be overclocked nearly as easily.

Bottom line, both are good gaming processors and the FX's future with more games using newer engines will not only cut the gap in performance out, but push it in it's favor, all for less $$.

8320 is pretty nice, clocks really well (Click to show)

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Garbage benchmark is garbage, same goes to tek syndicate.
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Neither Linus nor Logan are garbage, they are one level above Tom's hardware when it comes to game benchmarking. Both of them leave alot to be desired though. Where are the frame over time graphs that inform us of spikes valleys and the such? Frame latency? GPU/CPU usage?Core load? Temperatures?
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post #46 of 338
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Oh I fully do, and I'm a bit more realistic about it. I don't fold 24/7 and I know a majority of people don't use FX's to fold regardless so the point is moot. Not only that, with most things NOT being mutlithreaded and using as much cpu resources, it's very rare to ever see my cpu go over 50% usage so it's not like it's drawing a ton of power.

In the day to day reality of it by the time the 3570k would pay for itself, you'd have already upgraded, at least in the states. I mean come on people, this isn't comparing a cost of ownership like a car where gas mileage will really put a hurt on your wallet.

Some people buy their processors to actually use them instead of letting their eight core CPU sit idle most of the time. Some people also upgrade when they need more performance, not every generation that offers 10% more performance. Many people keep their processor for at least three years and given that much time, the intel chip would have been more expensive at purchase but cheaper in the long run, maybe even enough to bump up to the 3770k.

The FX chips bleed money, the longer you own and power them, the more money you waste because you were fooled by their lower purchase price.
post #47 of 338
It's funny to see people get 'fired up' over such a small difference. Yeah maybe the i5 could have been clocked a little higher, and the FX-8350 is generally a little cheaper. But no matter which side of the debate you fall on, AMD is finally back with a cpu that is 'competitive' in PC gaming which is great news for everyone.
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post #48 of 338
FX 8350 is cheaper and should be slower. By beating the i5 3570K in some benchmarks that's even an extra.
That's even without taking the multi-threaded performance into account. The i5 3570K is considerably slower at times.
As SoloCamo said the overclock is very fair between the two, both are 400 MHz above max boost clock. In-fact the i5 3570K got the upper-hand percentage wise.
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post #49 of 338
Expected and boring results. Linus could really stand to step his testing methods up a notch as well.
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post #50 of 338
If you're only pushing 400 Mhz over stock, grab yourself a i5-3570 or i5-3350P or flip it on Ebay / return your CPU.

Seriously a waste of money to get a an i5 unlocked if you're afraid to push it and have a garbage CPU cooler like the stock one. smile.gif

The Vishera FX-8320 is a better value than Bulldozer was. I only wish that when I upgraded Vishera reviews were out already. But hey, now I can upgrade to a lightly used i7 by someone that doesn't OC. tongue.gif

However, single thread stuff like CAD applications, anything made before multi-core... don't even bother with FX
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Not everyone is about Benchmarks- and many people are "hit and run" bench-markers (a bit like me) - that test their equipment over the course of a week or two, then just mellow out and use it.

This.... I only bother when I see something is wrong / new hardware / there's a new BIOs update / new benchmark / or I changed something major like the OS.

P.S. someone fix Linus' grammar. "More better"? rolleyes.gif
Edited by AlphaC - 3/12/13 at 7:44am
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