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post #1 of 20
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Would yall run an OS on a single SSD non-raid(onboard "Intel" stat controler) and your storage raid on a raid card?


Single SSD(onboard) for OS
8port RAID Card with 8 HDD's for media

KS
post #2 of 20
Yes, That's how i have my media server set up.
post #3 of 20
Yup. That's probably what most users have setup since it's one of the simplest and basic forms of a media server. Some people would skip the SSD for a regular HDD or even just stick with the onboard controller instead of a dedicated RAID card when on a strict budget.
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post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
Wouldnt be a straight Server, more like General_MultiTasker Light Gamer.

Thoughts on upcoming Intel S3700's?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6433/intel-ssd-dc-s3700-200gb-review

EDIT: I like keeping my stuff simple and super clean, if the OS gets corrupted, just a nice and clean fresh Windows install, and my media dosnt have to be rebuilt?

KS
Edited by knightsilver - 3/13/13 at 12:36am
post #5 of 20
Most things wont need to be installed again but somethings require to be installed all over again like adobe products.
post #6 of 20
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post #7 of 20

Adaptec is pretty good, but I personally prefer LSI.

Keep in mind that the card you listed is a very new generation of card with a new connector that is not well know yet. Most modern RAID controllers use miniSAS (SFF-8087) cables, where this card uses miniSAS HD (SFF-8643) cables.

I'm not sure what your plans are for this RAID array, but I seriously doubt you need that powerful of a controller. Are you running 8 SSDs in a RAID 10 or something? That is a serious RAID controller, and if you are RAID a couple spindle drives for a media array, you can do exactly what you need with a whole lot less.

LSI MegaRAID 9240-8i - $264.99 (less than half the cost)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118127
RAID 0/1/5/10/50/JBOD, SATA 3, supports 8 drives, 256mb RAM.

LSI MegaRAID 9261-8i - $484.99 (if you need RAID 6 or 60)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118132
RAID 0/1/5/6/10/50/60, SATA 3, supports 8 drives, 512mb RAM.

I personally own the 9261-8i above, that I run with a HP SAS Expander. I can connect 28 drives to that controller, and the combination works great. If you plan to do a RAID 5 (not recommend with 8 3TB drives or something), or multiple RAID 5s, or RAID 10...go with the 9240-8i and save a ton of money. You can pick up the HP SAS Expander for $200-250 on eBay, and still save money. Better than the HP SAS Expander is the Chenbro CK23601 which is like $300-350, I think. Still saving you money.

If you want RAID 6 or 60, go iwth the 9261-8i. I don't think you can get SATA 3 RAID 6 or 60 for much less (at least not with a quality controller).

Don't get me wrong, the Adaptec is really really nice, but I don't think it's needed unless running 15K SAS drives or SSDs, and even then I would question why a home user would need that (using it for SAN storage with multiple iSCSI Targets over 10Gbps Ethernet, sure...streaming 1080p MKVs over your LAN, no way). The new cables for that adaptec port are $40-50 each, but I think that controller comes with two cables that breakout to SATA, so you wouldn't have to buy them. SFF-8087 to 4 SATA cables are like $10-25.
post #8 of 20
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Nothing crazy!

Just mainly media "videos" and personal docs/files from other systems.

I gave up Cable TV, and planning and buying all of the shows I watch, wanting 30TB or close too........

RAID6, RAID10 or RAID60 for my close to 30TB's? Currently thinking the WD's Red (SATA) HDD's?
Edited by knightsilver - 3/13/13 at 4:59am
post #9 of 20
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Nothing crazy!

Just mainly media "videos" and personal docs/files from other systems.

I gave up Cable TV, and planning and buying all of the shows I watch, wanting 30TB or close too........

RAID6, RAID10 or RAID60 for my close to 30TB's? Currently thinking the WD's Red (SATA) HDD's?

RAID 10 will give you the best performance between 6/10/60, but you also loose half your space. With that said, you don't need the performance of RAID 10 for video streaming. I am planning to build out a RAID 60 (waiting on 3 more drives to come in so I can start the RAID 60) and expand it out to 18-22 drives, with some warm spares.

8 Drive RAID 60 will yield the same amount of storage space as an 8 drive RAID 10, assuming the same drives. 8 x 3TB in a RAID 10 (or 60) would yield 12TB, where a RAID 6 would yield 18TB. RAID 6 has a nasty write penalty, but that shouldn't really matter for media (which is write once read many). If you want 30TB usable (in a RAID 60), you will probably need to get an expander and use 12 4TB (~32TB usable) drives or 16 3TB (~36TB usable) drives.

Are you set on wanting a hardware RAID controller? There is nothing wrong with it and it's what I prefer, but you could do a software RAID setup (i.e. ZFS on FreeNAS) and save some money (wouldn't need a $300 controller and $250 expander, but would need some $50 HBAs). Just another option.
post #10 of 20
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Im open to using an HBA. But did want some kind of hardware redundancy?

This is still new to me, so, Im abit green. The main idea I had was to have one system "my main(Lite Gamer & Office) system" with the media server And keep the media raid off the OS drive.

Add a super low micro-box for the wife, and maybe a notebook or two. Without having my main system, and a Separate server box?

Our KWH rate "$$$$" just doubled last month. So our cell phones are cheaper than out Light bill now, so sad! And its just a two bedroom apartment!
Edited by knightsilver - 3/13/13 at 10:34am
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