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Sometimes I wonder if the only reason AMD owners keep on buying new AMD chips is because the lack of motherboard switch-over costs (since they haven't changed sockets in seemingly forever) makes its lower performance seem more palatable...

Not at all my setup runs the games I have with no problems and smooth as a babies ass.................Why would i need anything more, what you need to ask yourself is why all the intel fanboys need to upgrade every month just for a bench mark now that's high school right there ...................................wink.gif
    
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And when Haswell comes out, the right move would be to buy the current i5. But do we expect to see a price drop from Intel that makes them palatable?

Unfortunately, Intel doesn't work that way. The prices for the new Haswell chips will likely be nearly identical to their comparable (in terms of MHz) Ivy Bridge predecessors. That means that the Haswell i5-4670K will likely cost almost the same (~$230) as the current i5-3570K once the retail channels get saturated with the new offerings. And the price for the i5-3570K will not drop once Haswell hits, either.

The optimal strategy for owning Intel hardware is to buy the fastest CPU and best motherboard that you can afford, then wait 3-4 generations (about 2 socket changes' worth) before replacing them. There's a lot of people who are still using perfectly serviceable 1st-gen i5/i7 (socket 1156) chips that waited out the 2nd/3rd-gen Sandy/Ivy Bridge (Socket 1150) and are going to upgrade to the 4th-gen Haswell (Socket 1150).
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OK so what you are saying is that waiting really does me no good. I get the i5 now, for a marginal increase in performance, take a perfectly good mobo and memory and do...something with it (I already own 5 pc's that I have built myself). Maybe I take these parts and put them in the media pc...
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Sometimes I wonder if the only reason AMD owners keep on buying new AMD chips is because the lack of motherboard switch-over costs (since they haven't changed sockets in seemingly forever) makes its lower performance seem more palatable...

AMD introduced Socket AM3+ about a year and a half ago to accommodate the FX processors; FX runs unreliably or not at all on regular AM3 boards, even with BIOS support. They've changed sockets more recently than Intel has. Socket 1155 showed up before AM3+.

Some people just prefer AMD over Intel, simple as that.
     
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If you can find one, that motherboard should be able to run a Phenom II x6. Just make sure you are on the latest bios.

The PII x6 performance is close to the i5, or even better in some cases, and the upgrade cost is significantly less.
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AMD introduced Socket AM3+ about a year and a half ago to accommodate the FX processors; FX runs unreliably or not at all on regular AM3 boards, even with BIOS support. They've changed sockets more recently than Intel has. Socket 1155 showed up before AM3+.

More recently, yes. But still much less frequently. And Intel hasn't had cross compatibility in a long time (if ever, I'm not too sure). AMD has cpu's that are compatible across multiple generations of sockets.
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Why would you go PhII when a FX6300 utterly breaks it apart in every aspect?
   
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965 FTW
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+1 the x4 965 and the 955be are still a awsome gaming chip
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OP, I have a similar generation mobo as you (790GX 128M), and "upgraded" to a 940x4, which was the second highest chip my mobo takes. The highest was a 945, but I couldn't find a second-hand one and it doesn't have an unlocked multi, which I like for being able to OC easy while using the sleep function.

Guess what I upgraded from though - a 720x3. The 720 is actually newer than the 940, but the extra core in the 940 made a huge difference in everything. So it was a sidegrade if anything - cost me almost nothing after I sold the 720. Swapping out your mobo will mean you will have to buy all new parts - the 965 would be a 5 minute swap. If you can OC that 920 a little more, up to 3.4?, I doubt you even really need to bother with a 965 for the next year at least.
 
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