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post #21 of 46
Not sure how to answer you OP...

how about this way.



~if you are planning on gaming across 3 monitors at 4k resolution you'll want an intel and a 680/690 or 7970 gpu.

~if you are planning on gaming on 1 monitor at 1080p you'll never be able to tell the difference between intel and amd. At those resolution numbers you can run with a phII965be, just fine. Its what i'm using now, and not a single game i've played has had less then the monitor refresh rate for FPS at any graphics setting. Simply put, the p3/xbox 360 held down the system requirements so much for games a freakin' intel g630 is enough cpu for single threaded games.


As to the comment about people buying AMD chips... frankly, I'm well aware that amd is an inferior cpu. However 2 considerations come into play for me when selecting a CPU. 1) what do i need ~ since what i need the computer for is easily met by both companies (as even the slowest CPUs on sale right now are generally more CPU then you'll ever need, making the GPU the bigger concern)
2) what can i spend ~ which generally makes it a win for AMD every time
Edited by azanimefan - 3/14/13 at 9:56am
 
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post #22 of 46
I'd say 960T.

Might be able to get a solid 4.0Ghz from it with that board. Also a chance to unlock Cores 5-6.
Edited by ComputerRestore - 3/14/13 at 12:11pm
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I went with the 965 BE and another 4 gb ram. Will just move over the other 2 gig to one of the less deserving pcs.
Now, the big question is...what kind of OC can I expect?
I AM running a singe 24 inch asus VW246H with 1920x1280 resolution and am interested in seeing what kind of frame rates I will get from FarCry3, the latest Bioshock, and TombRaider.
Also wondering what I can do with my 4870...is it even worth it to toss it in the same machine with the 7870...
Tomorrow, we experiment..
post #24 of 46
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UPDATE: (If anyone really cares)
I bought the i5 3750k, new mobo and memory, for 471$ from amazon.
Then I got buyer's remorse and returned it...
Bought another 4 gig of ddr2 1066 ram, and a 965 BE.
Put the BE in the mobo...and found it running at 800 hz. Apparently the motherboard does not support a 965 BE.
Greeeeat.

Now, I am looking at a new mobo and memory to support the 965. Guess I will be going to ddr3 1600 memory as well.

Gotta return the extra memory.

A new mobo: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3, with 8gb gskill memory and the 965 will run me 275 bucks. So I save about 200 bucks by staying with AMD.

OR....

Do I also send back the 965 and go one step further?
Once again, FPS gaming, driving games, 24 inch monitor and same video card. I do not plan on going to multiple monitors for gaming.
post #25 of 46
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Originally Posted by evergrey2013 View Post

UPDATE: (If anyone really cares)
I bought the i5 3750k, new mobo and memory, for 471$ from amazon.
Then I got buyer's remorse and returned it...
Bought another 4 gig of ddr2 1066 ram, and a 965 BE.
Put the BE in the mobo...and found it running at 800 hz. Apparently the motherboard does not support a 965 BE.
Greeeeat.

Now, I am looking at a new mobo and memory to support the 965. Guess I will be going to ddr3 1600 memory as well.

Gotta return the extra memory.

A new mobo: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3, with 8gb gskill memory and the 965 will run me 275 bucks. So I save about 200 bucks by staying with AMD.

OR....

Do I also send back the 965 and go one step further?
Once again, FPS gaming, driving games, 24 inch monitor and same video card. I do not plan on going to multiple monitors for gaming.

Well i have my 965 clocked to 3.7 and 4 gigs gskill ram XFX 7850 piped to a 25" lcd @1920x1080 most games maxed out i have no regrets....these 965 are work hoarse cpu's.
    
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post #26 of 46
AMD Phenom II 920 vs Phenom II 965
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/81?vs=102

AMD 920 vs Intel I5 3570K
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/81?vs=701

965 vs 3570
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=701

A 3570K $220 + Asrock Z77 Extreme4 $114 + 2x4 GB RAM $60 = $400
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Originally Posted by evergrey2013 View Post

UPDATE: (If anyone really cares)
I bought the i5 3750k, new mobo and memory, for 471$ from amazon.
Then I got buyer's remorse and returned it...
Bought another 4 gig of ddr2 1066 ram, and a 965 BE.
Put the BE in the mobo...and found it running at 800 hz. Apparently the motherboard does not support a 965 BE.
Greeeeat.

Now, I am looking at a new mobo and memory to support the 965. Guess I will be going to ddr3 1600 memory as well.

Gotta return the extra memory.

A new mobo: GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3, with 8gb gskill memory and the 965 will run me 275 bucks. So I save about 200 bucks by staying with AMD.

OR....

Do I also send back the 965 and go one step further?
Once again, FPS gaming, driving games, 24 inch monitor and same video card. I do not plan on going to multiple monitors for gaming.

Your motherboard supports it just fine, while idle Cool and Quiet kicks in and underclocks the CPU to 800 Mhz... Your fine, don't send anything back. Also for a reference look at my rig's 3DMark11 score, I have it listed when you click on it. It could give you an idea of the 965's performance when overclocked. The score to look at is the Physics score as that is the CPU score.
Edited by VitalShot - 3/31/13 at 7:20pm
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Why would you go PhII when a FX6300 utterly breaks it apart in every aspect?

^I tend to ignore statements like this.They are utterly ridiculous.

btw..
http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/processor/fx_6300/ FX-6300

http://www.hwbot.org/hardware/processor/phenom_ii_x4_965_be/

See if there's any benches where FX-6300 is better than Ye Olde 965 Black at similar frequencies..or higher ones for that matter.
edit:There are no LN2 subs for FX-series..I'm sure it's 7 Ghz capable..


evergrey:I'm gonna try to steer you to Biostar or Asus for AMD boards..don't be afraid of used when on a budget,either.
Edited by Schmuckley - 3/31/13 at 7:27pm
 
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i5.
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3.8 is almost guaranteed. I was able to hit 4.0ghz on the H50 but you HAVE to keep it below 60C under stress tests or it'll fail. that 965 hates anything above 60C.

I bought a 7950 and used it with my 965. It handled it overclocked up to 1ghz OC on the video card. When I overclocked the cpu to 4GHz, I gained benefits of the overclocked video card up to 1150 on the gpu. So that 965 is a beast no matter what people tell you. Even on the new Tomb Raider it handed it maxed out with no drops below 40FPS, most games maxed. As long as you run the chip @ 3.8+, it's a keeper and will last you a while.
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