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AMD have APU. Cpu+gpu for a good price. You cant compete that.
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AMD/ATi Has almost always offered better raw hardware power than Nvidia, for less cost. With Nvidia, you're paying for licensed stuff like PhysX and CUDA, and software support / compatibility. In short, convenience.

For a console, it would be kind of absurd to pay more for "More frequently updated 3D drivers" or "Better Multi-GPU Compatability" any such nonsense - developers are gonna be programming nearly straight to metal.

It's clear Nvidia wasn't willing to take the profit hit required to compete with AMD in a market where the potential customers won't ever know who's GPU is being used to begin with. (lets face it, how many console gamers know what GPU is in the PS3? Not counting OCN The average user knows more about their cellphone hardware than their console hardware - That's why they game on consoles and not PCs, they don't wanna think about it, they just wanna stick in the disk and have it work)
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AMD/ATi Has almost always offered better raw hardware power than Nvidia, for less cost. With Nvidia, you're paying for licensed stuff like PhysX and CUDA, and software support / compatibility. In short, convenience.

For a console, it would be kind of absurd to pay more for "More frequently updated 3D drivers" or "Better Multi-GPU Compatability" any such nonsense - developers are gonna be programming nearly straight to metal.

It's clear Nvidia wasn't willing to take the profit hit required to compete with AMD in a market where the potential customers won't ever know who's GPU is being used to begin with. (lets face it, how many console gamers know what GPU is in the PS3? Not counting OCN The average user knows more about their cellphone hardware than their console or computer hardware - and even that isn't very much)

I can't beleive I'm saying this, but for once, I actually agree with Zero.
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A lot of you need to remember Nvidia has the Arcade market. Being in the PS4 or not, Nvidia dont care that much IMO due to the amount of dosh they earn elsewhere.
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I can't beleive I'm saying this, but for once, I actually agree with Zero.

You always agree with me, you just don't realize it yet. wink.gif
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Let me translate.

Nvidia wanted high grade pricing for mid tier hardware.

To be fair, the profit margins in console hardware are extremely slim to nonexistant...

The whole point of consoles is to sell a device at a low price and then reap the rewards through sold games with the console maker taking a cut.
 
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I'm just looking around on the 'net at the moment, wasn't Nvidia also at the heart of a scandal with their Xbox360 Graphics chips being nothing more than refurbished / rubbish PC GPUs they were charging Microsoft top Dolla for?

Well I know it's not exact, as I mentioned, I'm looking around the net for something to that effect but were they ?
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I'm just looking around on the 'net at the moment, wasn't Nvidia also at the heart of a scandal with their Xbox360 Graphics chips being nothing more than refurbished / rubbish PC GPUs they were charging Microsoft top Dolla for?

Well I know it's not exact, as I mentioned, I'm looking around the net for something to that effect but were they ?

Even if true, how would this be any different than anything else any chip maker sells? 7850s are 7870s that didn't make the cut, etc.
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Since Physx isn't portable, they went with an open standard chip maker...

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To be fair, the profit margins in console hardware are extremely slim to nonexistant...

The whole point of consoles is to sell a device at a low price and then reap the rewards through sold games with the console maker taking a cut.

I though AMD just licensed the design and Sony / Microsoft would be paying Global Foundries to manufacture
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