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Just interested in knowing, what is the difference between the FX-4100 and the FX-4170? Is it just the clock speeds? Is the FX-4170 simply a factory-overclocked FX-4100, or is it a better binned CPU? Can I get higher OC on the FX-4170 over the FX-4100?

Its not that the 4170 is over clocked its just the 4100 is underclocked to be put into the entry level market segment
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It might be better binned, but there shouldn't be much of a difference, you will most likely hit 4.5+
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Its not that the 4170 is over clocked its just the 4100 is underclocked to be put into the entry level market segment

Great! I've seen reviews where it reached 5Ghz on air. I am sure the stock 4.2Ghz is going to be enough for me, but I am really excited to learn all about overclocking. I just want to be certain of the motherboard I am buying. Now my eyes are set on the ASRock 970 Extreme3. I know it has a 4+1 power phase design, but it seems to be a very popular choice, seen many good reviews out there on it. However, just in case, I will list all available motherboards in case there is a better one for overclocking.

ASRock 970 Extreme3
MSI 970A-G46
Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 (Not UD3)
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Asus M5A97
Asus M5A97 EVO
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Great! I've seen reviews where it reached 5Ghz on air. I am sure the stock 4.2Ghz is going to be enough for me, but I am really excited to learn all about overclocking. I just want to be certain of the motherboard I am buying. Now my eyes are set on the ASRock 970 Extreme3. I know it has a 4+1 power phase design, but it seems to be a very popular choice, seen many good reviews out there on it. However, just in case, I will list all available motherboards in case there is a better one for overclocking.

ASRock 970 Extreme3
MSI 970A-G46
Gigabyte GA-970A-D3 (Not UD3)
Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3
Asus M5A97
Asus M5A97 EVO

Why are those the only motherboards available? are you trying to do the microcenter bundle? because if so you really should do the 6300 instead
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Why are those the only motherboards available? are you trying to do the microcenter bundle? because if so you really should do the 6300 instead

I'm in Saudi, not the States, no such thing as a Micro Center here. The next step up from these motherboards in the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, and that is selling for nearly $200.
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I'm in Saudi, not the States, no such thing as a Micro Center here. The next step up from these motherboards in the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, and that is selling for nearly $200.

Well then the ASRock is probably the way to go.

here reference this page when looking for the best OCing motherboards for AM3

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

actually that M5A97 PRO isnt bad either, and has 6+1 Phase Power, which could lead to a better overclock if you are planning on going with a water loop.
Edited by TheProfiteer - 3/15/13 at 12:23am
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Well then the ASRock is probably the way to go.

here reference this page when looking for the best OCing motherboards for AM3

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database

actually that M5A97 PRO isnt bad either, and has 6+1 Phase Power, which could lead to a better overclock if you are planning on going with a water loop.

Thanks. I had a look through the motherboards, ASRock 970 Extreme3 seems to be fine, only drawback being throttling on an 8-core FX, not surprising. I don't plan on getting an 8-core anytime.
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The 4+1 on the ASRock seems to be a solid setup and being your going to run a quad you shouldn't see any problems. I run a 4100 @ 4500-4800Mhz and it doesn't benchmark as good as my Phenom II x4 955 @ 4GHZ but it comes close and in game I cant tell the difference. (Uses less power also biggrin.gif)
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The 4+1 on the ASRock seems to be a solid setup and being your going to run a quad you shouldn't see any problems. I run a 4100 @ 4500-4800Mhz and it doesn't benchmark as good as my Phenom II x4 955 @ 4GHZ but it comes close and in game I cant tell the difference. (Uses less power also biggrin.gif)

Great to hear smile.gif I was anticipating 4.6 - 4.7 Ghz would be realistically achievable. I've placed a pre-order and should be expecting the motherboard by the end of March. I am also interested in knowing what the CPU TDP support of a motherboard says about that motherboard. The ASRock 970 Extreme3 has a 140W TDP support as opposed to 125W or even 95W on some others. What does that translate to?
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Great to hear smile.gif I was anticipating 4.6 - 4.7 Ghz would be realistically achievable. I've placed a pre-order and should be expecting the motherboard by the end of March. I am also interested in knowing what the CPU TDP support of a motherboard says about that motherboard. The ASRock 970 Extreme3 has a 140W TDP support as opposed to 125W or even 95W on some others. What does that translate to?
I wouldn't trust ASRock's "nonsensical" TDP support probably. And that is probably the stock actual TDP of a 8350 wink.gif
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You have made a bad decision my friend. Bulldozer is a terrible architecture (no matter how much the fanboys try to defend it), you should have spent the extra money on the fx 4300.

But to answer your question about 4.5-4.7 should be attainable.
It's only 7% slower clock for clock in synthetic benches, and the power consumption is nearly identical within margin of error...

...It's smaller than the margin between Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge.

I don't know what's worse, blind group-think or fanboyism.

Unless you can find an FX-4300 for $95, it's not a better deal at all.
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