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Here's the problem... one person says 4.6Ghz is a distant dream and my VRMs will blow up, others saying its easily achievable with 5+Ghz... will someone please give me a straight answer, or at least direct me to an experienced AMD overclocker before I start blowing up the hardware I bought with my hard-earned money?
4.5 is a good estimation. Remember, ASRock cheaps out on the low-end boards. So don't expect to find the same VRMs on the 990s. Probably ancient DPAK size mosfets.
Monitor your VRM temps and then judge if you can OC further, 90C is what i call pretty dangerous. I don't have much experiences with Extreme3 but only Extreme4 on the *90 chipsets not the *70 chipsets.
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Here's the problem... one person says 4.6Ghz is a distant dream and my VRMs will blow up, others saying its easily achievable with 5+Ghz... will someone please give me a straight answer, or at least direct me to an experienced AMD overclocker before I start blowing up the hardware I bought with my hard-earned money?

You just need to keep things real, you're building a budget system so there will be limitations. There is not a straight answer, for starters you don't even know how good of an overclocker your CPU will be, than there is the heat issue...cheap air cooler and the ambient temps of were you live. Don't get your expectations to high even with a huge overclock it is still gonna be a fairly slow system.
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Alright now we're getting somewhere smile.gif

So I can realistically expect 4.5-ish Ghz. Now regarding VRM temps, what program can I use to measure these? HW Monitor? And what would a safe temperature threshold be?

Now I've also heard of attaching small fans to the VRMs in order to keep them cool. Is this a good idea? I can grab some small fans really cheap off of ebay. Another idea I had is to have my top mounted case fans blowing directly downwards to cool the VRMs. Good idea?
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Yes, yes good idea. But the thing is i find it hard to swallow that you can have a tower cooler and still have space for a top fan. Tiny heatsink? Won't get you far in terms of OC
Use small fans. VRMs temp can be measured by HWMonitor by TMPIN0
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Did a quick search. Hyper 212 EVO and case fans just about fit smile.gif

I've had a good look through the following stickies:

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database
http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors

The Extreme3 seems to be safe. Heatsinks are present on the VRM / MOSFETS. I can zip tie some small fans directly on top of the heatsinks. From what I've read, the Extreme3 throttles the FX-8120... does that mean there is some sort of protection present?

Having discussed all of the above... Is there anything else I need to know?
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Hey fellas. After some reading on the forums, I have decided to put my order for the ASRock 970 Extreme3 on hold. I contacted my AMD supplier and informed them about possibly changing the choice of motherboard, will see about importing one.

I have looked at the following threads and have found them to be very helpful smile.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/946407/amd-motherboards-vrm-info-database
http://www.overclock.net/t/1144067/amd-990x-970-am3-motherboard-buyers-guide-help-thread
http://www.overclock.net/t/943109/about-vrms-mosfets-motherboard-safety-with-125w-tdp-processors

The 3 motherboards I am looking at as viable 970 chipset motherboards, from the above links:

1) ASRock 970 Extreme3
2) Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3
3) ASUS M5A97 EVO / PRO

From what I understand, the best choice of the above motherboards should be the 970A-UD3, followed by the M5A97 EVO, and finally the 970 Extreme3. Power phase designs of 8+2, 6+2 Digi and 4+1 respectively.

Currently I am favouring the 970A-UD3. Is this a good choice?

EDIT: What I am trying to achieve: as high an OC as possible for my $89 FX-4170 on a reasonably priced motherboard. Favouring 970 chipset, as I don't need the Xfire and SLI capabilites of a 990FX. My Corsair CX500 V2 can't handle 6850's in Xfire... or can it?
Edited by Forde3654Eire - 3/22/13 at 9:22am
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Digital 6+2 is always better but Asus boards have huge problems on AMD side.
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Yup internet problem.
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What about the 8+2 power phase design of the 970A-UD3? And what problems are those? The links don't indicate any problems with the ASUS boards for AMD.

EDIT: Alright, I found out about the problem with the ASUS boards, and now I recall a review I saw on Newegg, regarding the BIOS updates bricking the board.

So now its ASRock 970 Extreme3 vs Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3... which one should I go for?

Keeping in mind:
PSU: Corsair CX500 V2
GPU: Sapphire 6850
Edited by Forde3654Eire - 3/22/13 at 9:58am
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My ASUS board runs perfectly but it's a 990fx based board. At $150 though it's still very well priced.
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