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I was just trying to throw something out there, outside of the box. Well kinda.
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Got a 600Gb raptor for $80...Personally for myself, I would wait for the 1Tb version drop to at least $150 but it's still a nice deal for $200 thumb.gif
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I'm telling ya man a couple of 600GB's do quite nice for me too... thumb.gif
I might grab two more for RAID's..
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I recently purchased a pair of WD VR WD1000DHTZ 1TB and set them up in RAID 0 on the SATA II ports of the Intel controller of my Z77 motherboard. They are used to store all my steam games and a copy of my media files.

Let the numbers do the talking, here is my benchmark results in HD Tune Pro 5 "Read" test with the default settings.

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I recently purchased a pair of WD VR WD1000DHTZ 1TB and set them up in RAID 0 on the SATA II ports of the Intel controller of my Z77 motherboard. They are used to store all my steam games and a copy of my media files.

Let the numbers do the talking, here is my benchmark results in HD Tune Pro 5 "Read" test with the default settings.


thats a little slow on the reads for a 10k rpm drive. the seagate 7200.14's get around the same as that
 
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thats a little slow on the reads for a 10k rpm drive. the seagate 7200.14's get around the same as that

I was not aware of this drive but I based my drive choice on speed/reliability/warranty and I already had my mind set on the raptors so I didn't do much research to see what else was out there. But I'm happy to have found out about the performance of the Seagate drives! thumb.gif

In any case I looked around and found a few HD Tune benches of the Seagate 7200.14 2TB drive and I will agree that the performance is roughly the same but the access time is always much lower on the raptors (usually twice as low). From what I saw in fact of benches is as follows:

Minimum read speed
The minimum speed was consistently higher on the VR although sometimes the Seagate came close within 5-15MB/s.
Maximum read speed
The maximum speed tends to be higher most of the time on the Seagate by 10-20MB/s.
Average read speed
The Seagate seems about on par with the average speed of the VR, sometimes higher by 10-15MB/s and sometimes lower by 10-25MB/s.

One reason that can affect the performance of the Seagate drive is how many platters the drive has, apparently that model of hard drive has different variants with different number of platters (from what I saw in a few threads). So it would appear that this Seagate drive competes at roughly the same level of performance as the VR but at a much lower price point.

This is great if you are on a budget or want to save money but you have to factor in some additional points to make a truly educated decision. For one they are not in the same category, the VR is an Enterprise class drive while the Seagate is a consumer class Desktop drive. Now on to the reliability aspect of the drives, because they are in different classes WD uses the MTBF to rate the reliability of the VR and Seagate uses the AFR for its consumer products which makes direct comparison harder but Seagate still lists the MTBF on its Enterprise class drives. The Seagate drive being a consumer class drive is not designed from the ground up to be a 24/7 drive as it lists an AFR power-on hours rating of 2400 hours/year. This does not mean that the drive won't stand up to many years of running 24/7, but expect a higher chance of failure vs the VR when running the drive 24/7. Finally on the warranty side, the VR drive has a 5 year warranty vs the Seagate 2 year warranty.

To wrap it up, considering the performance is roughly the same then it boils down to the price/capacity vs reliability/warranty. Personally I prefer paying a little more to have better peace of mind and lower chances of failure and a long warranty to cover the drive should it ever fail, mainly because I'm not diligent enough at doing my backups. tongue.gif Speaking of which, I should probably pick up of of those Seagate drives and enclosure to use as my new external backup HDD, my current WD 1TB is still working without issue but two external backups are better than one! biggrin.gif
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I was not aware of this drive but I based my drive choice on speed/reliability/warranty and I already had my mind set on the raptors so I didn't do much research to see what else was out there. But I'm happy to have found out about the performance of the Seagate drives! thumb.gif

In any case I looked around and found a few HD Tune benches of the Seagate 7200.14 2TB drive and I will agree that the performance is roughly the same but the access time is always much lower on the raptors (usually twice as low). From what I saw in fact of benches is as follows:

Minimum read speed
The minimum speed was consistently higher on the VR although sometimes the Seagate came close within 5-15MB/s.
Maximum read speed
The maximum speed tends to be higher most of the time on the Seagate by 10-20MB/s.
Average read speed
The Seagate seems about on par with the average speed of the VR, sometimes higher by 10-15MB/s and sometimes lower by 10-25MB/s.

One reason that can affect the performance of the Seagate drive is how many platters the drive has, apparently that model of hard drive has different variants with different number of platters (from what I saw in a few threads). So it would appear that this Seagate drive competes at roughly the same level of performance as the VR but at a much lower price point.

This is great if you are on a budget or want to save money but you have to factor in some additional points to make a truly educated decision. For one they are not in the same category, the VR is an Enterprise class drive while the Seagate is a consumer class Desktop drive. Now on to the reliability aspect of the drives, because they are in different classes WD uses the MTBF to rate the reliability of the VR and Seagate uses the AFR for its consumer products which makes direct comparison harder but Seagate still lists the MTBF on its Enterprise class drives. The Seagate drive being a consumer class drive is not designed from the ground up to be a 24/7 drive as it lists an AFR power-on hours rating of 2400 hours/year. This does not mean that the drive won't stand up to many years of running 24/7, but expect a higher chance of failure vs the VR when running the drive 24/7. Finally on the warranty side, the VR drive has a 5 year warranty vs the Seagate 2 year warranty.

To wrap it up, considering the performance is roughly the same then it boils down to the price/capacity vs reliability/warranty. Personally I prefer paying a little more to have better peace of mind and lower chances of failure and a long warranty to cover the drive should it ever fail, mainly because I'm not diligent enough at doing my backups. tongue.gif Speaking of which, I should probably pick up of of those Seagate drives and enclosure to use as my new external backup HDD, my current WD 1TB is still working without issue but two external backups are better than one! biggrin.gif

this read was really frigging interesting mostly because i'm under the influence of a certain plant wink.gif

BUT, i do agree with what you're saying. I know the Seagate isnt on the level the VR is quality wise, but i just cant stomach spending that much on a platter drive that dosent have much storage space nowadays.. biggrin.gif
 
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Does anyone have a comparison benchmark between the three new VRs? There is a 1TB, 500GB and 250GB and I'm wondering how they compare. I really only need 300GB.

Should I get 1x 500GB (probably SS to 300GB)?
2x 250GB and RAID 0?
Or get the 1TB drive and SS big time...

I didn't realise these things had become so cheap. I'm almost tempted to abandon my planned SSD purchase for my main rig and get VRs instead. It's just the noise and heat...
Edited by Oubadah - 3/15/13 at 2:30am
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I was not aware of this drive but I based my drive choice on speed/reliability/warranty and I already had my mind set on the raptors so I didn't do much research to see what else was out there. But I'm happy to have found out about the performance of the Seagate drives! thumb.gif

In any case I looked around and found a few HD Tune benches of the Seagate 7200.14 2TB drive and I will agree that the performance is roughly the same but the access time is always much lower on the raptors (usually twice as low). From what I saw in fact of benches is as follows:

Minimum read speed
The minimum speed was consistently higher on the VR although sometimes the Seagate came close within 5-15MB/s.
Maximum read speed
The maximum speed tends to be higher most of the time on the Seagate by 10-20MB/s.
Average read speed
The Seagate seems about on par with the average speed of the VR, sometimes higher by 10-15MB/s and sometimes lower by 10-25MB/s.

One reason that can affect the performance of the Seagate drive is how many platters the drive has, apparently that model of hard drive has different variants with different number of platters (from what I saw in a few threads). So it would appear that this Seagate drive competes at roughly the same level of performance as the VR but at a much lower price point.

This is great if you are on a budget or want to save money but you have to factor in some additional points to make a truly educated decision. For one they are not in the same category, the VR is an Enterprise class drive while the Seagate is a consumer class Desktop drive. Now on to the reliability aspect of the drives, because they are in different classes WD uses the MTBF to rate the reliability of the VR and Seagate uses the AFR for its consumer products which makes direct comparison harder but Seagate still lists the MTBF on its Enterprise class drives. The Seagate drive being a consumer class drive is not designed from the ground up to be a 24/7 drive as it lists an AFR power-on hours rating of 2400 hours/year. This does not mean that the drive won't stand up to many years of running 24/7, but expect a higher chance of failure vs the VR when running the drive 24/7. Finally on the warranty side, the VR drive has a 5 year warranty vs the Seagate 2 year warranty.

To wrap it up, considering the performance is roughly the same then it boils down to the price/capacity vs reliability/warranty. Personally I prefer paying a little more to have better peace of mind and lower chances of failure and a long warranty to cover the drive should it ever fail, mainly because I'm not diligent enough at doing my backups. tongue.gif Speaking of which, I should probably pick up of of those Seagate drives and enclosure to use as my new external backup HDD, my current WD 1TB is still working without issue but two external backups are better than one! biggrin.gif

this read was really frigging interesting mostly because i'm under the influence of a certain plant wink.gif

BUT, i do agree with what you're saying. I know the Seagate isnt on the level the VR is quality wise, but i just cant stomach spending that much on a platter drive that dosent have much storage space nowadays.. biggrin.gif
story of my life... wink.gif
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Made an offer on the white label drive, if that fails, the guy selling the enterprise drive said WD said it's in warranty for 4 more years.
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Intel i5 3570K 4.5ghz ASRock Z77E-ITX Sapphire R9 290x Tri-X 1200/1500 Crucial Ballistix Tactical LP 2x8 GB 8-8-8-24-1T 
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Samsung 840 Pro 256gb Western Digital Velociraptor Western Digital WD15EARX Western Digital WD15EADS 
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Silverstone NT06-Pro Windows 10 x64 LG 29UM67 Logitech G710+ 
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Silverstone SG08 600W PSU Silverstone SG08B Logitech G700 Pioneer SE-A1000 
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