Originally Posted by DaveLT
Mine does. It's really odd that the IOH runs way cooler than the ICH even if the ICH has one big fat hidden flat heatpipe underneath it linking it to the VRM+IOH heatsinks
Originally Posted by Roxborough
I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying that the OP obviously doesn't know all that much about what we're discussing, I was talking very loosely when I mentioned the Southbridge affecting temperatures, it was more of an example, not specific to the board in question nor to the previous discussion of overclocking ability. I'm also speaking from experience with Asrock boards, the Southbridge on my friends motherboard was exceptionally hot and had issues with overheating PCI slots too.
I think this was just a misunderstanding on both our parts, you thought I meant that particular board and in relation to overclocking, I can see how you read it like that. I can also see how you thought I meant even with a 6W TDP it will produce heat, these were separate statements, I should've put a full stop, many apologies. But, some boards do have very hot SB's and it can effect temperatures, especially whilst gaming which is what I was insinuating with "but never-the-less effects the overall temperatures on the board which results in very minimal differences", I also probably should've put "can" in there somewhere.
With these lower end boards, they all perform rather similarly, with very minute differences that the OP wouldn't notice even if he had, that is my entire "point", we could blind him with technological talk and it wouldn't make a direct difference to his purchase as he needs to do more homework to understand it all in general.
Again, apologies for the misunderstanding.
Also, this may clear it up too if you read it with the above in mind: http://www.overclock.net/t/1371169/build-a-good-pc-help/100_50#post_19562763
It's sad not to know about tech details.... apparently, I know there are i3 cpus, quad cores, 6 cores and 8. I have used i3 and from my experience I know it is not the best cpu for streaming high end...pro.gms., it's obvious. But if I look to 12, 8, 6 cores, and went for quad core, why should I expect the max performance, overall...? I know a bit about cpus performance ( this is because, I know there is no way and i3 cpu which can not be overclock, can perform better in everything you through at it, than an 8- 12, cores over. I will not say I know all about technical... and spot out the i3 cpus that performs better than most intel 6 cores cpu, (even if there is then why should manufactures make new cpus, if the technical dude knows there are no difference between the two? The company will make lose through people who look into forums before shopping.... won't they?) but instead I know definitely the 6 core will be better than what ever the i3 might be, in the next couple of yrs. Games at the moment will not make use of all the 6 cores, so what is the point of buying 8 cores for now... aren't they gonna be cheaper when those games that make use of all 6 cores kick in?
Quad cores performance, and 8 core performance will be no difference if they are both running battlefield 3 ( when each cpu is overclocked). Therefore, there is no need getting more cores than 4, if the games does not use them, (maybe for people to show they have the best rigs), but the cores are gong to get much more cheaper won't they (by the time those pro and games that uses 8, 6 cores get in the, the recent 8 cores you bought for expensive will be cheaper on market). I will not judge you about your technical abilities... but in general I sometimes think this way. Let me make another example: other than a used item, a £1 product will never be better than the £5 one in England ( just like, a Pentium 2 cpu (cheap!) and an intel i5 (expensive) the i5 is the best in any modern games...) they only way the pentium 2 is going to match up the same performance as the intel is in games such as mario..mario!, therefore there is no point of buying the i5 for that mario game only, if you are not thinnking of the waiting for call of duty, and crysis, in the future. Even the i5 is going to be cheaper by then.... won't they... my whole point, again
Knowing about all the techs and spending £400, to build your rig... does not mean it will perform better than the non technical dude who has got 12 cores, HD 7970, 35GB RAM! ready. You might have saved some money, but that dude with 12 cores will be ready for anything for at least 15yrs from now ( we cant forecast the future, except for what the manufactures will be thinking of building in the next 5yrs- 20yrs, but what we know is that as long as current game and apps does not make use of all the more cores (6, over), the current cores should be cheaper by that time). I don't know about tech issues but this is how I sometimes think, for my self:). Therefore I know I will get exactly what I spent on my rig. I don't expect a high end rig, which will be adaptable for pro...games, for more than 20yrs, if I will spend only £400 on that rig. Just let me know the best ones for cheaper (because that is what my budget tells me) and stop talking about TDP's and SB's. Anyway I have started building the rig and I will let you know how it's going.