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I think it's too late for that though. An unlocked sandy or ivy i3 would have been amazing but games are starting to show significant gains with more than two real cores more than ever now.

I really wish steamroller was coming out sooner.



3220 is still a beast for a dual core and would only be better at 4.5Ghz
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a 16 core opteron costs as much as a 3930K, needs twice the cooling potential if you run it at FX level frequencies and you would need to OC it to 4.6GHz to beat a 4.8GHz 3930K in cinebench.

That's completely forgetting anything that doesn't use all the threads to the max.

I believe a 16 core Opty would put the beatdown on a 3930K in multithreaded apps as the 16 core would be equilivant to a pair of 3770K's
Edited by Stay Puft - 3/15/13 at 7:27am
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post #72 of 358
Yes , AMD CPU-s/APU-s are bad.
In spite of the price you pay for them they run all kinds of apps and games with no problem.
How can it be ,something cheap to run anything out there ,in the year 2013 ,there must be some trick here.
Intel are the only CPU-s able to run Windows and BF 3 so something must be wrong here.

People around the world say that AMD CPU-s are bad and AMD deserves this.
Shame on AMD long live Intel the king of performance.
   
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post #73 of 358
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I believe a 16 core Opty would put the beatdown on a 3930K in multithreaded apps as the 16 core would be equilivant to a pair of 3770K's

at 4.6 a single 8-core FX will pull around 7.6 points in cinebench. The highest I've been able to do is 9.4 and that was at 5.62GHz

The 16 core opty is just two of those put together basically. A 4.8ghz 3930K scores around 15 points, a bit less.
 
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post #74 of 358
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Originally Posted by Dromihetes View Post

Yes , AMD CPU-s/APU-s are bad.
In spite of the price you pay for them they run all kinds of apps and games with no problem.
How can it be ,something cheap to run anything out there ,in the year 2013 ,there must be some trick here.
Intel are the only CPU-s able to run Windows and BF 3 so something must be wrong here.

People around the world say that AMD CPU-s are bad and AMD deserves this.
Shame on AMD long live Intel the king of performance.

Your trollness is not needed here.
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at 4.6 a single 8-core FX will pull around 7.6 points in cinebench. The highest I've been able to do is 9.4 and that was at 5.62GHz

The 16 core opty is just two of those put together basically. A 4.8ghz 3930K scores around 15 points, a bit less.

I was looking over at HWBOT and a lot of the guys are using less then optimal memory. CAS 9 1600 for benchmarking. What would a 8350 at 5Ghz pull in cinebench with some nice Cas 10 2400 memory pull? Also dont the opty's support quad channel memory? 5Ghz 16 Core opty with quad 2400 memory sounds nice. Yeah it'll perform like crap in programs non multithreaded but who cares biggrin.gif

Only reason to buy it would be to bench or fold.
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I'm gonna say that you're gonna need some extraordinary cooling to get two 8 core PD (or are they still BD, can't remember) dies under the same IHS to 5ghz tongue.gif

Of course if we get an 8-core IB-E that won't matter in the slightest lol
 
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I'm gonna say that you're gonna need some extraordinary cooling to get two 8 core PD (or are they still BD, can't remember) dies under the same IHS to 5ghz tongue.gif

Of course if we get an 8-core IB-E that won't matter in the slightest lol
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I'm gonna say that you're gonna need some extraordinary cooling to get two 8 core PD (or are they still BD, can't remember) dies under the same IHS to 5ghz tongue.gif

Of course if we get an 8-core IB-E that won't matter in the slightest lol

It would be an interesting build to say the least. thumb.gif
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I believe a 16 core Opty would put the beatdown on a 3930K in multithreaded apps as the 16 core would be equilivant to a pair of 3770K's
I thought those 16 core Opterons needed so much overhead that they performed like 12 cores, or something like that.
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However, people still say that AMD CPUs are garbage and Intel's equivalent kicks AMD in the ass pretty bad. Is this true nowadays? I've been pretty much disconnected from all the hardware world for the last years so I don't know if this is an hyperbole or Intel has really left AMD that far. What do you think? What do you think that will happen after Microsoft and Sony release their consoles with 8-cored CPUs (PS4 is theoretically a Vishera APU)? And outside the gaming world, what do you think that happens and will happen with AMD vs Intel?
Well. 8 Jaguar cores not piledriver tongue.gif
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Many people tend to use hyperbole when discussing these things, I think this is part of the problem. Intel CPUs do offer stronger per-core performance and because of that will often outperform an AMD CPU, especially in gaming which generally isn't a highly threaded situation. The problem is that even if there's just a small difference, people will claim the Intel CPU murders, destroys, decimates, rapes or does some other nasty things to the AMD CPU, which is idiotic because they're CPUs, they don't even have sexual organs or a predilection towards violence. A lot of people seem to treat hardware manufacturers as sports teams, and thus will exaggerate whenever their "team" performs better (and use grossly inappropriate terms to try and illustrate their point). To the uninformed bystander, this makes it sound like there's a massive difference when in reality it's barely noticeable in most day-to-day tasks, if at all.


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This has been needing said for a long time! biggrin.gif
I'm jelly of your eloquence. who-let-rip-smiley.png
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