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They are not bad at all. There is only Intel fanboys who look only at one side of the coin., those who trash everything to just feel good about their purchases.
I am sure those who trash AMD, will just cry on their knees when AMD goes bankrupt. They will hope that AMD return so they can get a nice CPU for $250 instead of paying $600 for the same CPU because of the lack of the competition ..
Even if AMD FX 8350 doesn't compete with i7 series it somewhat managed to adjust the prices.
AMD is the only warrior that fights Intel/ Nvidia. Nvidia just released a $1000 single consumer GPU just because AMD doesn't have the product to compete. I am sure if AMD is not around things will get even uglier.
We consumers must support AMD when they get the things right and not just trash them because we have personal issues with them. Because without AMD ... the only competition against Intel/ Nvidia in the PC market... the prices will inflate much higher than they do now.
Edited by HeadlessKnight - 3/15/13 at 9:14am
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+1 the people on tight budgets would compalin about intel prices
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Love how that video cherry picks benchmarks. I'm waiting for someone to post the Teksyndicate video
Well, someone will immediately bring up Linus's response video afterward, which just shows that the 3570k wins in just about everything, as far as I remember.

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Passmark is a garbage benchmark
lol passmark, the only reason I'd use passmark would be to troll someone.
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1)if some1 wants 60 FPS in most of the games(SP) AMD is enfff
2)if some1 is more into MP games AMD is a big NO NO unless he wants to play BFBC2 ,BF3 etc games on 60 FPS (MP) frown.gif
3)1 can really save a lot of money for GPU ,buying AMD CPU and its cheap mobo compared to intel's
4)i think AMD runs cooler than Intel new CPU's

PS:check my SIG RIG before bashing me tongue.gif, yes i dunno anything abt new AMD CPUs n sorry for my bad English :\
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Well, someone will immediately bring up Linus's response video afterward, which just shows that the 3570k wins in just about everything, as far as I remember.
lol passmark, the only reason I'd use passmark would be to troll someone.

big difference though, Tek used higher spec'd memory than Linus, AFAIK AMD loves the faster memory speeds.
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big difference though, Tek used higher spec'd memory than Linus, AFAIK AMD loves the faster memory speeds.

Look around this forum. I dont think i've ever seen an amd user use faster then 2133 memory where there are quite a few 3570K guys using 2600+. I cant wait till the 4770K gets released so i can test DDR3 3000 on it
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Cost of manufacturing a 7970 was data mined to be over 650% less then what they sell it for they pay like 50 bucks a card and throw it out like its a bone to us for 400 bucks

Fairly priced 7970s would cost 250-299.99 but then there older cards 6000 series and lower end cards below the 7770 would become obsolete for the price.

If they priced 7970s at 250-300 i would buy 3 and call it a day, they had the bawls to put out the Ares II and price it at $1500 dollars..

1500 dollars for a card that is made up of 2x $400 dollar gpu's.... you could buy 4x of those gpu's for $1500 dollars...

You should ask yourself why the single GPU Titan costs 1000$ and is not a limited run product. The ARES II is a limited run product for people who can afford it and collect it.
Data minded for 7970 to be 50 bucks per card? That's not counting a vapor chamber heatsink which cost about 30$? Hell even the fan costs 5$ to make it
And how about the RAM chips and VRM? You don't have to buy a limited run product, you can buy a normal fanned 7990

Are you kidding me? To say they are earning a huge margin, please look at Nvidia. It's ludicrous.
And AMD can release the top-end FirePro card as a Radeon card if they want and fight with the Titan but they do not need to.
Why? AMD knows grabbing the performance crown is pointless. So what if you grab it? Nvidia is charging more simply because they had the performance crown but they don't until the Titan came out but that darn thing costs 1000$ and is 25% slower than a 690. (Although it's merely 2 680s SLi'd) the 7970 GHz i just posted on twitter is very very and much close to the Titan than i would have liked.
The 680 is left far behind in sleeping dogs as much i wouldn't like it, simply because it costs MORE

You're a Nvidia fanboy clearly. But in a different way. Ya think Nvidia will make a cheap for 300$ and sell it for 350$? No they won't. It's Nvidia. The money miner
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AMD does have an edge when it comes to the lower end chips. If you are bot going to use discrete video then the APU slaps Intel. However even if you are going budget with a discrete card AMD offers better value up until the i5 lineup and there it balances out pretty much in the end.

To answer the OPs' question, no AMD is not all that bad. It is slower in benchmarks at similar price points but in computing experience is about equal. The FX has a lead in price to performance for heavy multi-tasking but that is the only lead the FX series has.

My advice would be find the total solution that fits your budget, be it Intel or AMD and you will be happy either way.
Yes, pretty much yes.

The APUs vs the Intel CPU+iGPU, APUs are definitely going to win. Even at the same price, the i3-3220 is much, much slower without help of a dGPU.
And something Idiots (Tried to do a portmanteau of Intel + Idiots but realized they are both I words so i'll say they are Core iStupids) forget to remember is that the HD4000 is pretty much only from the i5-3570k and onwards.
The non-k versions has a HD2500
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Originally Posted by Dromihetes View Post

Yes , AMD CPU-s/APU-s are bad.
In spite of the price you pay for them they run all kinds of apps and games with no problem.
How can it be ,something cheap to run anything out there ,in the year 2013 ,there must be some trick here.
Intel are the only CPU-s able to run Windows and BF 3 so something must be wrong here.

People around the world say that AMD CPU-s are bad and AMD deserves this.
Shame on AMD long live Intel the king of performance.

My arse. bad they are not. All CPUs are good. and i mean both intel and AMD
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yes they are that bad, they punch babies and steal wives from deployed soldiers...

no they are really not bad, some people just have a vendetta against amd no matter what the situation.

they're the same people who claim amd drivers are the worst drivers every time a new set is released.
This. Needs to put into the hallway.

But there is a problem now though. I wasn't really expecting my L5520 @ 3.6GHz to be faster than a 6300 but in passmark it is (Not counting encryption). Garbage benchmark but it does that at lower power
Seems to win even the i7 3770k in AIDA64 ... something i don't understand now
Yes the FX6300 is cheap but buying a decent AM3+ board that will OC decently is much over the price i paid for my EX58-UD5 that isn't used much at all
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big difference though, Tek used higher spec'd memory than Linus, AFAIK AMD loves the faster memory speeds.
It does love memory speeds but Intel didn't need it and did it with 1600 and you saved 20$ just like that
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Someone really needs to do a RAM speed comparison test in games.A colleague of mine did something similar for the publication we then worked and found out (among other things) that Dirt 3 did like fast memory alot.

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Data minded for 7970 to be 50 bucks per card? That's not counting a vapor chamber heatsink which cost about 30$? Hell even the fan costs 5$ to make it
And how about the RAM chips and VRM? You don't have to buy a limited run product, you can buy a normal fanned 7990

A video card has a substantial RD cost behind it as well.
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Bulldozer is crap (FX X1XX), piledriver is pretty good (FX X3XX). 8350 is a better option than a 2500k/3570k if you want to stream your games or want to encode a lot of videos (and dont have the money for a i7). In most other situations i'd take the 3570k though.
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