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Back to DACs for a sec (I may go down this path in the future with a new audio set up) - in about $150-$200 range, what are some good DACs with TOSLINK input?
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What kind of motherboard does he have? It prolly already has an optical output. If you're not sure what one looks like, look at the back panel of your computer because yours has one. It's the small square port right next to the PS/2 keyboard/mouse port. It may be glowing red.
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What kind of motherboard does he have? It prolly already has an optical output. If you're not sure what one looks like, look at the back panel of your computer because yours has one. It's the small square port right next to the PS/2 keyboard/mouse port. It may be glowing red.

Yeah it's got optical out smile.gif
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No probs smile.gif

Back to DACs for a sec (I may go down this path in the future with a new audio set up) - in about $150-$200 range, what are some good DACs with TOSLINK input?

for that money you won't find anything worth buying witha TOSLINK. You may be able to find used. If your absolutely stuck on TOSLINK a Home A/V receiver would be your best bet in that kind of cash. Used would get you a better unit for the money.

Don't get me wrong, there are TONS of TOSLINK DAC's on the market, but they are cheap cheap cheap. $25-75 and they sound terrible from what I have heard in the past.

Warning: Personal Opinion INCOMING!

There is nothing wrong with USB or Coaxial/Optical DAC's at all. Here is a combo I fell in love with for budget audio on a PC.

PUP-DAC This little guy is AMAZING. Easily comparable to DAC's twice its price. Well worth the money for any audio enthusiast.
Daton DTA-100a I got one for a customer build, I can't stop using them now. Simply amazing value here.

There are many passive speaker's that you can pair with this combo and its just amazing for the money spent. Also usable as a headphone audio solution too.

Just for giggles here is another budget audio set I have used multiple times in the past and never heard a complaint, Although you seem to be far more advanced of an audio geek for this little system to appeal.

GRUB-DAC Probably the cheapest DAC I would ever recommend to anyone. It won't render anyone speechless but performs very well for the money.
Lepai 2.1 channel AMP Again, won't render anyone speechless but is full of option's that make it a great unit for PC's and Laptop sound system's. Also work's as a headphone amp too! Its one of the few AMPS that will allow the use of a sub, But I have only used them with powered sub's and passive speaker's. Was never able to find a passive sub I liked that fit the AMP well...Some one else might know of one or two.


If your OK with Creative Click Here. I have no personal experiance but a few people I game with rave about them, I cannot vouch for how well tunes their ear's are though. Thought about buying one just to try it....but its Creative Lab's....
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Is there a reason he wants to use optical instead of USB? Is a sound card out of the question?

These are pretty much your best USB options
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There is absolutely no reason to buy a sound card, DAC, or reciever if you're using optical out. It's going to put out the exact same signal that your motherboard will over the optical. This is just like saying you need to buy a PCI SATA card instead of using your motherboards SATA ports.

Just get an optical cable from your retailer of choice, then plug straight from onboard into the speakers. Nothing else will improve the sound quality.
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There is absolutely no reason to buy a sound card, DAC, or reciever if you're using optical out. It's going to put out the exact same signal that your motherboard will over the optical. This is just like saying you need to buy a PCI SATA card instead of using your motherboards SATA ports.

Just get an optical cable from your retailer of choice, then plug straight from onboard into the speakers. Nothing else will improve the sound quality.

QFT.

In the event that the MoBo he has doesn't have an Optical Toslink port, then something with the interface would be needed.

He would need to have an external DAC that can receive Optical and then output via 1/8" connection.
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for that money you won't find anything worth buying witha TOSLINK. You may be able to find used. If your absolutely stuck on TOSLINK a Home A/V receiver would be your best bet in that kind of cash. Used would get you a better unit for the money.

Don't get me wrong, there are TONS of TOSLINK DAC's on the market, but they are cheap cheap cheap. $25-75 and they sound terrible from what I have heard in the past.

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There is nothing wrong with USB or Coaxial/Optical DAC's at all. Here is a combo I fell in love with for budget audio on a PC.

PUP-DAC This little guy is AMAZING. Easily comparable to DAC's twice its price. Well worth the money for any audio enthusiast.
Daton DTA-100a I got one for a customer build, I can't stop using them now. Simply amazing value here.

There are many passive speaker's that you can pair with this combo and its just amazing for the money spent. Also usable as a headphone audio solution too.

Just for giggles here is another budget audio set I have used multiple times in the past and never heard a complaint, Although you seem to be far more advanced of an audio geek for this little system to appeal.

GRUB-DAC Probably the cheapest DAC I would ever recommend to anyone. It won't render anyone speechless but performs very well for the money.
Lepai 2.1 channel AMP Again, won't render anyone speechless but is full of option's that make it a great unit for PC's and Laptop sound system's. Also work's as a headphone amp too! Its one of the few AMPS that will allow the use of a sub, But I have only used them with powered sub's and passive speaker's. Was never able to find a passive sub I liked that fit the AMP well...Some one else might know of one or two.


If your OK with Creative Click Here. I have no personal experiance but a few people I game with rave about them, I cannot vouch for how well tunes their ear's are though. Thought about buying one just to try it....but its Creative Lab's....

Thanks for that smile.gif Let's say, uh - $300-$500. This is all theory, I'm just lookin' to learn!
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Is there a reason he wants to use optical instead of USB? Is a sound card out of the question?

These are pretty much your best USB options
ODAC
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Thanks - Schiit looks nice (hehe).

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There is absolutely no reason to buy a sound card, DAC, or reciever if you're using optical out. It's going to put out the exact same signal that your motherboard will over the optical. This is just like saying you need to buy a PCI SATA card instead of using your motherboards SATA ports.

Just get an optical cable from your retailer of choice, then plug straight from onboard into the speakers. Nothing else will improve the sound quality.

How would he do this with the Swan M50Ws? (I.e. plugging straight from onboard to them).
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QFT.

In the event that the MoBo he has doesn't have an Optical Toslink port, then something with the interface would be needed.

He would need to have an external DAC that can receive Optical and then output via 1/8" connection.

Yeah, thanks.
Actually on that note, is any audio quality loss if say, RCA to 3.5mm adapters are used? I wouldn't think so myself...
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The board has TOSLINK smile.gif

Edited my post after finding more on Swans.
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