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There will be no loss using an RCA to 3.5mm adapter.
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There will be no loss using an RCA to 3.5mm adapter.

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There is absolutely no reason to buy a sound card, DAC, or reciever if you're using optical out. It's going to put out the exact same signal that your motherboard will over the optical. This is just like saying you need to buy a PCI SATA card instead of using your motherboards SATA ports.

Just get an optical cable from your retailer of choice, then plug straight from on board into the speakers. Nothing else will improve the sound quality.

Unless the speakers have an Optical in then a DAC or some sort is required. How else is the speaker going to get signal? You need something to make it work.


And to the guy who said that a 3.5mm to RCA is the same as a USB DAC, you could not be more wrong! That is on board audio, the exact thing we are trying to move away from, Yes, it will work but it won't sound great, anyone who say's otherwise is most certainly not an audiophile. Now, it is arguable (pending on your opinion) that DAC's, AMP's, proper cable's, ect, ect is snake oil (and lots do). However there are people who cannot stand the lower quality of on board audio.

As I grow even more experience with PC audio(sound cards, ect) I'm learning that External audio solutions are better than in-board(sound cards/on board) for those looking for a HiFi experience.


@OP give me a bit and I'll link some nice mid range DAC's that might do you well... Never heard those speaker's so I cannot recommend these products 100% but they are nice and worth the money.
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Unless the speakers have an Optical in then a DAC or some sort is required. How else is the speaker going to get signal? You need something to make it work.

Thought so.
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And to the guy who said that a 3.5mm to RCA is the same, you could not be more wrong! That is on board audio, the exact thing we are trying to move away from, Yes, it will work but it won't sound great, anyone who say's otherwise is most certainly not an audiophile.

I was talking about using a RCA to 3.5mm adapter on a DAC that only outputs RCA but a speaker input is 3.5mm (in which case there would be no loss of quality I would assume) smile.gif
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@OP give me a bit and I'll link some nice mid range DAC's that might do you well... Never heard those speaker's so I cannot recommend these products 100% but they are nice and worth the money.

Thanks - it won't be for these speakers anyway smile.gif
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Thought so.
I was talking about using a RCA to 3.5mm adapter on a DAC that only outputs RCA but a speaker input is 3.5mm (in which case there would be no loss of quality I would assume) smile.gif
Thanks - it won't be for these speakers anyway smile.gif


What, in theaory might it power? I could list a bunch of well rated DAC's and nice one's I have sampled... but it would be a bunch of pretty useless info. Each DAC in that range will have its own unique sound signature. Even if you get a nice Audiophile DAC and Speaker set they might sound like crap when paired together... Now we have hit the Snake oil vs personal preference area of audio.. so I ask you "what you do wit it?!?" biggrin.gif
What use's? what music? do you like TONS o base? I have a hard to stabbing in the dark when recommending something this costly.. I don't want to be "that guy" if you know what I mean. Its different recommending some entry level product's in comparison.

Schiit has some nice DAC's and AMP DAC combo's that I fancy smile.gif

Can I ask what the fixation on TOSLink is? as oposed to Optical/Coaxial or USB DAC's
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What, in theaory might it power? I could list a bunch of well rated DAC's and nice one's I have sampled... but it would be a bunch of pretty useless info. Each DAC in that range will have its own unique sound signature. Even if you get a nice Audiophile DAC and Speaker set they might sound like crap when paired together... Now we have hit the Snake oil vs personal preference area of audio.. so I ask you "what you do wit it?!?" biggrin.gif
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Can I ask what the fixation on TOSLink is? as oposed to Optical/Coaxial or USB DAC's

I thought TOSLINK == optical? I'm sure USB DACs are totally fine but my USB bus is constantly loaded (being a developer, I have a ton of USB devices connected, probably much more than your non-developer audiophile), so I'd prefer to stay away from them and use TOSLINK which won't be affected by lack of USB bandwidth.

All of that makes sense - actually I'll save you the trouble and come back when I know what speakers they will be smile.gif
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Ok well, I guess this thread has been answered but I bought a £30 soundcard which has optical out, and have also bought a Denon DM39 receiver, I run the optical into the receiver and I have to say it sounds great, obviously sound depends on source material but there is no hissing, buzzing or interference that you could get from a jack, it just sounds clean and crisp, I would definitely recommend doing this
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I thought TOSLINK == optical? I'm sure USB DACs are totally fine but my USB bus is constantly loaded (being a developer, I have a ton of USB devices connected, probably much more than your non-developer audiophile), so I'd prefer to stay away from them and use TOSLINK which won't be affected by lack of USB bandwidth.

All of that makes sense - actually I'll save you the trouble and come back when I know what speakers they will be smile.gif

I'm sorry, I miss typed.... I meant Not sure where I got Coaxial optical.... my finger's just put that there. I was making a very poor attempt at suggesting the other form of Digital Signal... I should probably proof read more when I post about serious subjects.... my bad redface.gif

Its understandable if you have ton's of USB traffic already, I was just curious smile.gif

It will be fun to see what kind of system you eventually end up with. I will also refer you to Head-fi.org

Its an Audiophile based forum, They do preach their own brand of snake oil, but most of the info about AMPS, DAC's, and speaker's is correct.. Don't mention cables..... Please...
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I'm sorry, I miss typed.... I meant Not sure where I got Coaxial optical.... my finger's just put that there. I was making a very poor attempt at suggesting the other form of Digital Signal... I should probably proof read more when I post about serious subjects.... my bad redface.gif

Its understandable if you have ton's of USB traffic already, I was just curious smile.gif

It will be fun to see what kind of system you eventually end up with. I will also refer you to Head-fi.org

Its an Audiophile based forum, They do preach their own brand of snake oil, but most of the info about AMPS, DAC's, and speaker's is correct.. Don't mention cables..... Please...

All good tongue.gif
Thanks, been hunting around there to learn more smile.gif
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Plextor PX-256M5S 256GB Samsung EVO 1TB Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 Hitachi HDS723020BLA642 
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Hitachi HDS723020BLA642 Hitachi HUA722010CLA330 WDC WD10EARS-00Z5B1 TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S223B 
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Phanteks PH-TC14PE with TY-140's Lamptron FCv5 (x2) Windows 8 Pro 64-bit Dell U2412M 
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