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So my friend recently wiped his windows 7 for windows 8, and was quickly dissapointed. With my guidance he then installed fedora 17. He was having troubles with his fedora 18. It failed to boot from a CD, usb, and external harddrive. We were going to install 17 and then upgrade to 18 once we got a decent internet connection. We were planning on doing that on Sunday or so. In the last two days that he has been running 17 he has run into a few issues that have really been bugging him. The operating system is installed and completely up to date.

First of all when he tried to put the machine into Suspend, it threw up a wall of code and ended up at the lockscreen--

pci_legacy_suspend(): nouveau_drm_suspend+0x0/0x140 returns -16
dpm_run_callback(): pci_pm_suspend+0x0/0x140 returns -16
pm: device 0000:01:00.0 failed to suspend async: error -16
pm: some devices failed to suspend
firewire_ohci 00:0d:00.0: register access failure
[ttm] failed to expire sync object before buffer eviction

Then he has been getting some errors with GNOME (so I believe). There are times where he can not click on the activities bar or anything else on the bar. With his mouse he will also be unable to switch between windows (ie. firefox and terminal when both menu bars are showing).

Any and all suggestions would be much appreciated!
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post #2 of 25
How much swap do you have? For either suspend or hibernation (cant recall which) you need more swap then physical ram to use it. Try that first, then maybe look at your graphics driver.

For gnome errors we would really need to see the errors. You could try removing GDM as a service, booting to console, then running

su -c 'gdm' >> gdm.txt

Then start gnome, wait for said 'errors' and post back. Also, if clicking for hovering over activities doesn't work try hitting the system button (often has the MS logo on it) on the keyboard to bring up the display
post #3 of 25
I've moved away from gnome, but this was one of the reasons... first, i see "nouveau" in there, and i used nvidia non-free drivers, second, i had this on debian. What i found out eventually was that you can do "ctrl+alt+F1" and restart gnome shell (but you'll loose session). Also, sometimes you can do alt+F2 then type "r" and enter (which restarts gnome shell but keeps session). Also, you can try to kill some windows in terminal and see if that helps (none of them seem unusual with ram and cpu usage, so it's trial and error), but it usually didn't.
All things considered, i found gnome not reliable enough for me (also kind of slow), but that "meta key + type program name" to run some application is a killer and i want that in every DE i ever use.
    
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^ use dmenu. I have it keybinded on openbox.
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I'd install Fedora 18 itself, it upgrades fine (I originally did, then borked something with DSDTs). Also, if you use EXT as the file system and are going with nvidia. It's much easier to just boot without an initrd, so you don't have to re-build it or worry about things locking (xorg) if things go awry. Nouveau and proprietary don't get along well and they have nouveau built to boot in the default initrd. You can rebuild it, I just find it easier (and faster) not too.
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I'd install Debian. I ran Fedora 17 for a while (6 months or so), but it seems that there are lots of bugs that the devs never dealt with (lots of people complained about all the bugs in F17 compared to F16). I switched to Debian and have saved myself some headaches and time.
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I'd install Debian. I ran Fedora 17 for a while (6 months or so), but it seems that there are lots of bugs that the devs never dealt with (lots of people complained about all the bugs in F17 compared to F16). I switched to Debian and have saved myself some headaches and time.

^ might want to go with #! or LMDE if he doesn't want to spend time on adding the non-free repo. Unless he's pretty good with computers that might be a hard one to explain over phone
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^ might want to go with #! or LMDE if he doesn't want to spend time on adding the non-free repo. Unless he's pretty good with computers that might be a hard one to explain over phone

LMDE is a good choice, but if he was running F17, he'd have to add non-free repos too (so I assumed he knows how).
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LMDE is a good choice, but if he was running F17, he'd have to add non-free repos too (so I assumed he knows how).

It's easier with Fedora, where they have packages to install that add repos where Debian generally does not (not that I remember).
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LMDE is a good choice, but if he was running F17, he'd have to add non-free repos too (so I assumed he knows how).

It's easier with Fedora, where they have packages to install that add repos where Debian generally does not (not that I remember).

you add contrib-non free to sources.list and aptitude update
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