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or just click two checkboxes in synaptic IIRC...
    
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or just click two checkboxes in synaptic IIRC...

using a GUI for package management?

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well... don't really see the problem... i generally use apt, aptitude and synaptic on my machine... never had problems with that... when i'm in X i use synaptic, in console aptitude if i want to find particular package and apt if i know what i want to install....
then again, no, i haven't used those checkboxes, i edit sources.list file manually every time i need to, but i saw it few days ago by coincidence...
    
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well... don't really see the problem... i generally use apt, aptitude and synaptic on my machine... never had problems with that... when i'm in X i use synaptic, in console aptitude if i want to find particular package and apt if i know what i want to install....
then again, no, i haven't used those checkboxes, i edit sources.list file manually every time i need to, but i saw it few days ago by coincidence...

don't feel bad, I use synaptic all the time if I'm in Debian/Ubuntu (or based). I personally think it's one of the better package managers, I love the thing
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For being a GUI it is pretty good relative to the other options (ubuntu software center for example) but it's still an unnessasy layer over something really simple. It's good for absolute beginners to get set up, after that aptitude and apt-get are much better. same with yum and pacman- all really simple, no reason for a GUI
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i don't see the point in not using GUI tool since i'm already in GUI, it's not like aptitude or apt is any faster.
    
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It is faster, thats the point. Just run it in a terminal. 'All ready in the GUI'? I do half my work inside a terminal inside X and a WM. A lot of Linux users do. It's faster.
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Oh well, that's the beauty of choice, everyone uses what they consider best for task at hand. biggrin.gif

Also, i do all my work in terminal because that's my work, but if i would have a fitting tool to do it in GUI, i as well might. I don't see any advantage in terminal per se, it has advantages because it's often implemented better, not because it's just plain better than GUI.
    
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Oh well, that's the beauty of choice, everyone uses what they consider best for task at hand. biggrin.gif

Also, i do all my work in terminal because that's my work, but if i would have a fitting tool to do it in GUI, i as well might. I don't see any advantage in terminal per se, it has advantages because it's often implemented better, not because it's just plain better than GUI.

I agree, a lot of the time I do updates without a terminal open. What's the difference in opening a GUI and hitting the update button or opening a terminal and typing the commands? Equally just as fast at that point, while I'm at it I might as well see if they have other useful programs. If I had a list of everything I needed to set up, it might be easier and I should do that. I don't, cause it isn't something I do often so you will find me using a GUI to search. Yeah that can be done in a terminal, but then I have to type in the search for a package to get the context. After I've got that, I have to type in AGAIN to get the application. I can search in a GUI, hit a tick box and search for the next program. When I'm done, hit the apply or whatever and all those packages install. Blip, done.
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Oh well, that's the beauty of choice, everyone uses what they consider best for task at hand. biggrin.gif

Also, i do all my work in terminal because that's my work, but if i would have a fitting tool to do it in GUI, i as well might. I don't see any advantage in terminal per se, it has advantages because it's often implemented better, not because it's just plain better than GUI.

I agree, a lot of the time I do updates without a terminal open. What's the difference in opening a GUI and hitting the update button or opening a terminal and typing the commands? Equally just as fast at that point, while I'm at it I might as well see if they have other useful programs. If I had a list of everything I needed to set up, it might be easier and I should do that. I don't, cause it isn't something I do often so you will find me using a GUI to search. Yeah that can be done in a terminal, but then I have to type in the search for a package to get the context. After I've got that, I have to type in AGAIN to get the application. I can search in a GUI, hit a tick box and search for the next program. When I'm done, hit the apply or whatever and all those packages install. Blip, done.

and run multiple filers, switch between your mouse and your keyboard ten times, wait for the annoying thing to install with a dumb 'progress' bar that tells you little, or have a whole window dedicated to running the one GUI when in a terminal you can be doing other things in the same window. yup, you got me, that sounds 10x better.

Process of installing a package for me:

Alt-Shift-Enter (open terminal)
sudo aptitude install program, and sudo aptitude search program. If I need more then one program it's aptitude install program1 program2.
view useful info and hit y
done

as for searching in between, I open nano inside a tmux tile and just c/p the names I want the few times that is actually needed
Edited by jrl1357 - 3/20/13 at 6:39pm
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