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Title says it all.I don't want something really expensive either.This one is probably the one i'm going to get: Noctua NT-H1
Is it good or there are better at this price ? Compared to the coollaboratory liquid ultra,is it a lot worse? Because the liquid ultra isn't that much more expensive but it's conductive i think and it would be a pain in the ass to remove it because it's metal based.
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Get the Arctic MX-4, it's 1~2°C better, very easy to apply and usually cheaper.

The best would probably be Indigo Xtreme, followed by the Shin Etsu X23-7783D and the Gelid GC-EXTREME but they're very expensive for the temps you get.

Beware of the Coollaboratory stuff, some metals like aluminium will get oxidized and will degrade when being in contact with it. Also I did read that when it dries it becomes extremely rigid. (here)
This is why most people use it between core and IHS (IIRC Ivy Bridge IHS is nickel-plated so it's ok, more info here). thumb.gif
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Get the Arctic MX-4, it's 1~2°C better, very easy to apply and usually cheaper.

The best would probably be Indigo Xtreme, followed by the Shin Etsu X23-7783D and the Gelid GC-EXTREME but they're very expensive for the temps you get.

Beware of the Coollaboratory stuff, some metals like aluminium will get oxidized and will degrade when being in contact with it. Also I did read that when it dries it becomes extremely rigid. (here)
This is why most people use it between core and IHS (IIRC Ivy Bridge IHS is nickel-plated so it's ok, more info here). thumb.gif
i'm currently using the one that came with my hyper 212+ cooler,the CM thermal kit.Will i see temps improvements if i go with the MX-4 ? I'm out of my CM thermal paste but i have it on my processor,recetly applied.If i get the MX-4,is it going to be worth re-pasting again?If i can get around 5C lower,i'll scream "THANKS GOD" because i need around 5-6C to make my 4.8Ghz 24/7 OC because it gets too hot in games for my liking - around 65-68C I want to go down to 60-63C or something simular.I decided to not go with Coollaboratory liquid ultra because with shipping and taxes,it will cost me 20 euro.I'll never pay that much for a TIM.
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If you need that much of an improvement then try IC Diamond 7. It's the best since it's diamond based but it's very thick and therefore hard to apply compared to other TIMs.

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If you need that much of an improvement then try IC Diamond 7. It's the best since it's diamond based but it's very thick and therefore hard to apply compared to other TIMs.

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It isn't available in Bulgaria.Will the MX-4 still be a good replacement/improvement over my stock CM thermal compound?
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It isn't available in Bulgaria.Will the MX-4 still be a good replacement/improvement over my stock CM thermal compound?



2011 Thermal Compound Roundup

Found this, apparently the NT-H1 is slightly better from their test. It's also more expensive.
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2011 Thermal Compound Roundup

Found this, apparently the NT-H1 is slightly better from their test. It's also more expensive.
i'm not sure now.From the reviews i saw the NT-H1 is harder to spread as i use the spreading method,not the grain of rice one.But oh well,i guess i'll get the NT-H1.The only downside -3.5g vs 4g on the MX-4 and a bit more expensive.I'll have to deal with it i guess.
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i'm not sure now.From the reviews i saw the NT-H1 is harder to spread as i use the spreading method,not the grain of rice one.But oh well,i guess i'll get the NT-H1.The only downside -3.5g vs 4g on the MX-4 and a bit more expensive.I'll have to deal with it i guess.

From my own experience using both the NT H1 and MX-4 the Noctua was easier to spread and temps were within a degree so I went and continue go with NT H1 whenever I buy more. Though I will say the MX-4 I took from my friend was a 4ish months old and the H1 was brand new but I can only go by what I saw and experienced. I'll try to find out their actual viscosity, one sec.

*Update* Can't find exact numbers for the Noctua but but the MX-4 is Viscosity (poise): 870 and that would seem like it's supposed to be quite a bit easier to spread. When I used it it was about the same as the H1 but didn't spread as evenly under pressure. Maybe the age made it a bit difficult to use. But I will stand by my recommendation if you don't spread with a CC and do the dot/rice/pea pressure method, but if your spread it yourself the MX-4 might be for you.
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i'm not sure now.From the reviews i saw the NT-H1 is harder to spread as i use the spreading method,not the grain of rice one.But oh well,i guess i'll get the NT-H1.The only downside -3.5g vs 4g on the MX-4 and a bit more expensive.I'll have to deal with it i guess.

Grain of rice is better than spreading, most importantly you have less chances of screwing up with it. I've always used that method.
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MX-4 is what i use, although the differences between the top line non-conductive pastes are marginal, so do what you find best.
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Grain of rice is better than spreading, most importantly you have less chances of screwing up with it.
Agreed. A small pea / large rice sized drop on the middle and it will sort itself out as long as you don't tilt the cooler too aggressively when mounting. You can always re apply though, so no worries. Too little is usually better for the actual die is so small that as long as most of the heat spreader is in contact you'll be fine, but too much and you risk getting the TIM in unwanted places, although this won't do any damage as long as non-conductive TIM is used.
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