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post #11 of 29
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Get whatever is cheaper....it really doesn't matter.

Now I've read this from anand 330 review: "The 330 and 520 are very similar drives. The 330's primary differentiation comes from its use of cheaper, lower endurance MLC NAND."

Now i'm less interested in 330. but ill read the rest of the review first.
It still doesn't make a difference. The controller or another component will probably die before the NAND is written to its max lol.
post #12 of 29
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It still doesn't make a difference. The controller or another component will probably die before the NAND is written to its max lol.

All right, it's not just abotu endurance, it's more in error rate as well as stability, but if 330 is okay with that, then so be it.

Also, if OS imaging would work then there's no problem as long as I don't get BSODs or random unrecoverable failure, i guess it should.

EDIT: besides, wouldn't be better for an OS drive to have better consistency and random performance.
Edited by Stewox - 3/17/13 at 12:25pm
post #13 of 29
You can clone over fine. i like acronis true image myself.
post #14 of 29
So you are interested in a very reliable SSD. You also said, the 840 is new and you do not trust it fully. My personal opinion on that: Samsung does not buy a controller and some cheap NAND. The controller, the NAND, even the DDR2 cache is build by Samsung. Samsung has experience on semiconductors and stuff for years. I have one 830 and one 840 PRO, switched the 830 in my Ultrabook after I bought the PRO. And I never had just one BSOD or other issues with the drives. And the lack of new firmware is a sign that the original FW is just implemented very well and does not need to be improved. By the way, any FW update is a risk for the SSD.
I guess you won't regret it if you get a Samsung. Even the 840 Basic is a very good drive. And no, the TLC NAND is not a reliability risk. You won't be able to write it to death.
Edited by steve-n - 3/17/13 at 3:57pm
post #15 of 29
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I've got several more hours of research and well, my trust into Samsung 840 Pro has been restored, the website firmware versioning is weird, there actually was an update but it still shows as 1.0 on the website. ofcourse that alone didn't make my opinion alone, it does seem promising however I know it's not a consisten SSD as intel could be (especially Intel DC 3700 which is for 250€ around here seems kind of over my budget for now)
post #16 of 29
Samsung is every bit as good as Intel in the reliability department imho. Maybe even more so at this point.
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by DooRules View Post

Samsung is every bit as good as Intel in the reliability department imho. Maybe even more so at this point.

Data corruption possibility (power loss) makes me cringe with DRAM and no capacitors in 840 pro

or is DRAM cache only used for reading?
post #18 of 29
I have two plextor m3p's, 3 m4's, 2 840 pro's, sold my Intel 520's and a bunch of older drives. None of them have capacitors to my knowledge to help with power interrupts. It has never been an issue for me and we get quite a few power loss's where I live unfortunately.
post #19 of 29
i've read intel's quality control on these ssd's are above what everyone's doing and literally every failed intel drive is sent to them so they can study how and why it happened so they can improve the product more. dunno id that's just smart marketing that really got to me but "intel reliability" seems the best atm. 99% of my components I usually cheap them out but one thing I take extra care of it's my personal files. I don't want an SSD dying on me
post #20 of 29
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Get the cheaper of the ones mentioned when on sale and you wont feel any regret. biggrin.gif

^This. I myself use 2x Intel 330 240GB in RAID0. Though I don't have the links on me at this point, I did a bit of research into "Low Endurance MLC Nand", and I found some interesting stuff. Apparently the 240GB versions of the Intel 520 , Intel 330, Kingston HyperX (5k, original), and OCZ Vertex (Non-Max IOPS) all use the same NAND; they all have the serial "29F16B08CCME2" Here is the 120GB version of the Intel 330. However, this is NOT true for Kingston HyperX 3K (their low endurance model), which uses "29F16B08CCME3" Given that information, combined with the suspicion that Intel keeps the best NAND for themselves, I presume that Intel 330's endurance is higher than Kingston's "Low Endurance MLC Nand" HyperX 3k, and equivalent to Kingston's HyperX 5k (perhaps even higher).

That being said, I completely agree with what Sean said. Including either of the listed drives in your post merit stability in your system. Thus, buy whichever one is the most inexpensive.
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