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There's so much to consider! If you explain me those things, I probably won't get it anyway. You're welcome to try though! smile.gif

Lens Zoom Ratio:
This determines how big your screen can be and how close or far away your projector can sit from the screen. Imagine zooming in with a camera, a projector lens does the same thing. The higher the zoom ratio the more flexibility you have. Let's say you only have a 1:1 ratio lens, meaning to lens zoom at all. And it is setup to be a 100" screen at 10ft away. Now if you move your projector closer or further, the screen size will change. That's why zoom is important, to get you the size you want and be able to put your projector where you want it.

A note about lens zoom. The close you put your projector to the screen, the brighter it can be. So with a lot of light in your room, place your projector as close to the screen/wall as you can to get the most brightness. I understand a lot of people mount the projector on a shelf in the back of the room, this works but depending on where you are in your lens zoom you may be wasting brightness.

Lens Shift:
There is verticle and horizontal lens shift. This allows you to move the image left, right, up, or down without moving the projector and without having to use keystone correction. Keystone correction is really bad because you lose pixels in the corners. So lens shift is high preferred. This will make setting up your projector much easier because you can put the projector where it's convenient for you and just shift the image to where it needs to be.
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I've also been looking at an Optoma HD300X 3D and an Epson EH-TW5910 3D. Now I shifted my budget to around $1600, because I might be able to pay pr. month with 0% interests for 12 months. I really just want a decent one for a reasonable price. I'm not an enthusiast, and I won't play much with settings, so it should be something I could setup pretty easily smile.gif

And that explains a lot. In your country the Epsons use different model numbers. It is absolutely frustrating trying to figure out what model is what, but it should be close to this...

Epson 8100/8350 = EPSON EH- TW3200
Epson 3010 = EPSON EH- TW6000W
Epson 3020 = EPSON EH- TW6100W

The EPSON EH- TW5910W you talked about, it seems we do not have this projector in the US. It is the same as the 3010/TW6000W except it has a few less lumens (brightness) and a lower contrast ratio. So absolutely, that would be my projector of choice if you can stretch to that one.
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Lens Zoom Ratio:
This determines how big your screen can be and how close or far away your projector can sit from the screen. Imagine zooming in with a camera, a projector lens does the same thing. The higher the zoom ratio the more flexibility you have. Let's say you only have a 1:1 ratio lens, meaning to lens zoom at all. And it is setup to be a 100" screen at 10ft away. Now if you move your projector closer or further, the screen size will change. That's why zoom is important, to get you the size you want and be able to put your projector where you want it.

A note about lens zoom. The close you put your projector to the screen, the brighter it can be. So with a lot of light in your room, place your projector as close to the screen/wall as you can to get the most brightness. I understand a lot of people mount the projector on a shelf in the back of the room, this works but depending on where you are in your lens zoom you may be wasting brightness.

Lens Shift:
There is verticle and horizontal lens shift. This allows you to move the image left, right, up, or down without moving the projector and without having to use keystone correction. Keystone correction is really bad because you lose pixels in the corners. So lens shift is high preferred. This will make setting up your projector much easier because you can put the projector where it's convenient for you and just shift the image to where it needs to be.
And that explains a lot. In your country the Epsons use different model numbers. It is absolutely frustrating trying to figure out what model is what, but it should be close to this...

Epson 8100/8350 = EPSON EH- TW3200
Epson 3010 = EPSON EH- TW6000W
Epson 3020 = EPSON EH- TW6100W

The EPSON EH- TW5910W you talked about, it seems we do not have this projector in the US. It is the same as the 3010/TW6000W except it has a few less lumens (brightness) and a lower contrast ratio. So absolutely, that would be my projector of choice if you can stretch to that one.


Aaah! I actually get that! biggrin.gif And pretty annoying with the model numbers. No wonder, I was let down so often, haha! Hmm... I think I stretch the budget to the Epson EH-TW5910W, since it's a bit cheaper than the BenQ W1200.

But again, what about my question regarding projecting the image on a white wall instead of a canvas/screen? smile.gif
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Aaah! I actually get that! biggrin.gif And pretty annoying with the model numbers. No wonder, I was let down so often, haha! Hmm... I think I stretch the budget to the Epson EH-TW5910W, since it's a bit cheaper than the BenQ W1200.

But again, what about my question regarding projecting the image on a white wall instead of a canvas/screen? smile.gif

Absolutely no doubts the TW5910W is better than the W1200. I'm incredibly surprised its cheaper.

You can project onto a white wall, but you will notice blemishes and imperfections over time, especially if it's like textured drywall. Also depending on the sheen of the paint, you could get whats called hot spotting. Basically one portion of the image will be considerably brighter depending on your viewing angle. I ran my projector on a wall with flat greyish paint that people on the AVS forums recommended for about a year. It worked well for a time, then when I got my screen it was a huge improvement.
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You're really not helping, sorry. I already have a TV, and I want a projector. That's simple. Now I just need a quality projector, and I'll figure everything out with the lighting and stuff later on.

So me explaining to you that trying to drown out the sun is near impossible wasn't helpful? Your money, not mine, but at least that info is out there for anyone else who thinks some "black curtains or something" is actually going to help.

Have fun!
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Absolutely no doubts the TW5910W is better than the W1200. I'm incredibly surprised its cheaper.

You can project onto a white wall, but you will notice blemishes and imperfections over time, especially if it's like textured drywall. Also depending on the sheen of the paint, you could get whats called hot spotting. Basically one portion of the image will be considerably brighter depending on your viewing angle. I ran my projector on a wall with flat greyish paint that people on the AVS forums recommended for about a year. It worked well for a time, then when I got my screen it was a huge improvement.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I'm fairly certain that my wall is pretty evenly painted. It's definitely a high quality paint, I know that. I could try using the wall for a time, but I'd really like to run a 120" picture, but the screens are really expensive for it :/ No doubt a screen would be better, but who knows, maybe my wall will be sufficient smile.gif

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So me explaining to you that trying to drown out the sun is near impossible wasn't helpful? Your money, not mine, but at least that info is out there for anyone else who thinks some "black curtains or something" is actually going to help.

Have fun!

I wasn't trying to be rude, or to cause you any negativity at all. I just didn't find your post that helpful thus trying to steer others in to not writing such replies. I'm sorry, if I offended you. That was not my intent. I don't appreciate your condescending tone though. I'm not stupid. I know the sun is practically impossible to keep out, and "some black curtains" won't really do the trick. They would still be better than no curtains.
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I still have some questions though...

What about the screen? Is it better to have a white screen or black screen?

What about 3D movies? If I download and playback a 3D Blu-Ray movie on my HTPC via the projector, would it work? Or do I have to buy a 3D blu-ray disc, and then play it on the Blu-Ray-player?

Do you need specific glasses for 3D or can you use any pair of glasses?
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Please do elaborate, somebody smile.gif
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I still have some questions though...

What about the screen? Is it better to have a white screen or black screen?

What about 3D movies? If I download and playback a 3D Blu-Ray movie on my HTPC via the projector, would it work? Or do I have to buy a 3D blu-ray disc, and then play it on the Blu-Ray-player?

Do you need specific glasses for 3D or can you use any pair of glasses?

Screen

You absolutely do not use black. It wont reflect any light and you wont see anything.

White is the norm, it works very well and is average in every category.

Grey, depending on the shade, behaves a lot like white, except it has darker blacks and not quite as bright whites.

Silver is the brightest, but the most expensive to get right. Hotspotting is a real issue with silver.

Overall you would want white for your non dedicated room and budget.

3D from computer

Honestly I have no idea. I don't like 3D. I know there are 3D specific blu ray players, but I would assume most newer software that plays BD media on a computer could do 3D as well.

3D glasses

If I remember correctly that epson comes with 2 pairs of glasses. If you need more you need to match what type it is, active or passive. Also the epson projector might have a sync thing to it so you may actually have to get the epson glasses for the best possibly picture. I'm not 100% sure on this, youll have to do more research because I really despise 3d.
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Screen

You absolutely do not use black. It wont reflect any light and you wont see anything.

White is the norm, it works very well and is average in every category.

Grey, depending on the shade, behaves a lot like white, except it has darker blacks and not quite as bright whites.

Silver is the brightest, but the most expensive to get right. Hotspotting is a real issue with silver.

Overall you would want white for your non dedicated room and budget.

3D from computer

Screens are really expensive! I would really want a 120" screen.

Honestly I have no idea. I don't like 3D. I know there are 3D specific blu ray players, but I would assume most newer software that plays BD media on a computer could do 3D as well.

3D glasses

If I remember correctly that epson comes with 2 pairs of glasses. If you need more you need to match what type it is, active or passive. Also the epson projector might have a sync thing to it so you may actually have to get the epson glasses for the best possibly picture. I'm not 100% sure on this, youll have to do more research because I really despise 3d.

Damn, you're like a genius of projectors! Why can't I give you like a 1000+ reps?

So I should go for a white canvas then?

How is this one:

http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45&catid=2&Itemid=15&lang=en

3D on the HTPC would work then - in theory? If it really comes with two pair of 3D glasses, I suppose I could always try it out. If it doesn't work, I'll stick with 2D. 3D is hyped anyway. I really wouldn't base a movie's quality on whether or not it's in 3D.
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Damn, you're like a genius of projectors! Why can't I give you like a 1000+ reps?

So I should go for a white canvas then?

How is this one:

http://www.elitescreens.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45&catid=2&Itemid=15&lang=en

3D on the HTPC would work then - in theory? If it really comes with two pair of 3D glasses, I suppose I could always try it out. If it doesn't work, I'll stick with 2D. 3D is hyped anyway. I really wouldn't base a movie's quality on whether or not it's in 3D.

I have an elite screen and its great. I went with a sable fixed frame. Obviously because I have a dedicated room. I bet any of those would be more than enough. I got mine off amazon when it went on sale, look out for those.
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