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Some friends of mine need a basic rig to do basic stuff and possibly load up some games from time to time or put together some clips in Windows Movie Maker, but on the whole, it'll be an office computer with nothing too taxing. Being an Intel lover, I tried every which way to make a cost effective Intel build but just didn't see it. This APU line sounds awesome on paper with some good reviews to back it up. I'll be buying off NewEgg and have spent a lot of time going through reviews and third party info to come to my build.

So I come to you guys to see if you can help me lower costs without gutting what I have.

Case: Cougar Spike Black (Excellent mini tower that actually looks good)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 (Has the features I want and much cheaper than a normal ATX board)
Processor: AMD A10-5800K (Self explanatory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaw X 8GB DDR3 2133MHz (Reviews prove these APU's love fast memory, so I didn't skimp here, plus no dedicated graphics means I need the speed and size)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Blue 500GB Sata III 7200RPM (Your standard drive, would love a SSD but too costly)
CD/DVD Drive: Samsung DVD Burner (Your standard drive)
Power Supply: PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk III 400W (I could get a non modular for much less, but considering the mini tower, the fewer the wires the better)

Total: $433.92 USD (before tax and shipping)

I toyed with the idea of overclocking the processor but I didn't see buying an aftermarket cooler and possibly more case fans worth the extra $30-$50 for the minor performance gain. I'd say nonetheless a very formidable build for under $450, but could I do better? I like the challenge. What do you guys think?
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If you can afford the premium to get the Ares 2133 CL9, I'd go for it. Mines run 2133 at 9-11-10 1T with as little as 1.56V smile.gif

Even though they're rated 2133 9-11-10 2T 1.65V wink.gif

But overall, your build looks pretty darn good.
   
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That APU won't be able play games which will be released in next 2-3 years. They'll severely hold back any discrete GPU other than HD6670.
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I would get the Core 1000 case, Just look more office like then that funky case u picked.
You could really save on PSU. CX430 would be perfect and as long as you tie up the cable it should be no problem. You can spend $20 more in a case and get one with better cable management.
Other then that it looks good.
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Since your friends make video clips, I have a different suggestion for the HDD: Western Digital WD10EZEX. It's double the capacity at only a $15 premium, and is a very reliable model. I know it's the exact opposite of "streamlining", but in this case I think it's in the best interests of the end user...
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Originally Posted by sepiashimmer View Post

That APU won't be able play games which will be released in next 2-3 years. They'll severely hold back any discrete GPU other than HD6670.

Based on the description of what the OP's friends wants out of this rig, that's probably not too big of a deal.
Edited by svenge - 3/17/13 at 1:27pm
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Managed to cram in a 1tb hard drive, cpu cooler and a Silverstone case with front usb 3. For $439.50 after shipping and a $10 rebate. HERE!
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

If you can afford the premium to get the Ares 2133 CL9, I'd go for it. Mines run 2133 at 9-11-10 1T with as little as 1.56V smile.gif

Even though they're rated 2133 9-11-10 2T 1.65V wink.gif

But overall, your build looks pretty darn good.
Would the average person even notice CL9 vs CL11? That's some very tempting looking memory though.
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That APU won't be able play games which will be released in next 2-3 years. They'll severely hold back any discrete GPU other than HD6670.
I'm not quite sure what you're saying but I think it's that this processor is going to hold back the computer in a few years? Any brand new game is going to stress a basic computer several years down the line, but the graphic performance of this is pretty impressive compared to any other discrete graphics in the price range. I don't think my friends plan to fire up something Skyrim on max but stuff like DOTA 2 or Team Fortress 2.
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CPU+mobo combo $185. Get a "better" motherboard for less then the one you're getting, although I don't think biostar motherboards are very "feature" rich either.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1224939

*edit* they also offer a combo deal that gives you a full-sized ATX board for only 10 dollars more.

*edit2* might aswell have linked it, lol.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1224927

*editt3* I also doubt your friend would notice the difference between CAS latency of 11 or 9, it also has very little impact on the GPU performance. so I don't think it's worth the premium in this case atleast.
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That APU won't be able play games which will be released in next 2-3 years. They'll severely hold back any discrete GPU other than HD6670.

It's not really what the OP asked for.

And still, FM2 will see Kaveri by the end of this year/beginning of the next one, with close to 2X the performance of Trinity.
   
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Would the average person even notice CL9 vs CL11? That's some very tempting looking memory though.
I'm not quite sure what you're saying but I think it's that this processor is going to hold back the computer in a few years? Any brand new game is going to stress a basic computer several years down the line, but the graphic performance of this is pretty impressive compared to any other discrete graphics in the price range. I don't think my friends plan to fire up something Skyrim on max but stuff like DOTA 2 or Team Fortress 2.

In your OP you said they'll be playing games from time to time. It would be a disappointment, if in 2015, they try to run a game from that year, it'll lag a lot. That APU will have real trouble utilizing a discrete GPU if you install it then. They can max out Team Fortress 2 on that APU. If those are the types of game, then it's ok.
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