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I only have a 240mm rad on the top I wasn't aware that a 200mm rad would fit up front! Thanks for the heads up. The thing I hate the most is I can't fit the fans in the inside for the 240mm radiator inside this case.

What other size radiator would fit in the front?

Edit: I'm going to put my UT60 on the bottom and get another 240mm rad but a thinner one and put it on the top
Edited by WannaBeOCer - 3/17/13 at 9:34pm
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i wouldnt worry about it as long as you have a few (3-4 maybe 5!) more GOOD fans blowing into your case also. 'dilute' the warm air with ambient air and it wont make much of an impact.

I'll have the front 200mm fan, 2 120mm fans up top, and a rear as exhaust, or would intake be better?
post #13 of 26
Okay, most guys make the mistake of thinking that thicker rads are better. In reality, it's not the rad that cools, it's the air that goes throught it. So if you intend to keep your fans below 1200 rpm most of the time, keep in mind that slow fans have a hard time pushing air throught the thicker rads.

So instead of going with thicker rads,I would advise to actually use thinner rads with push/pull fans. That is fans on both sides.

Just have a look here and notice how the Alphacool ST30 actually slightly outperforms the twice as thick UT60 below 1200 900 rpm. If the ST30 had push/pull fans, it would kick it's big brother's butt even more.

So go as thick as possible, but make sure you have room for push/pull on your rad. If you don't have room, just go down in rad thickness until you can fit push/pull.

But that UT is a great rad, I own 4 of them myself. It's the king of the hill at virtually all speeds except below 1200 rpm, and even then, it still stays amongst the top performers.

And don't over estimate the benefits of getting fresh air to all your rads. Too many guys are recycling one rad's air into an other.
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Recycling of heat can easily cut performance in half or worse
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Also are both rads pushing air out of the case? You don't want to recycle air through rads..thats a goo way to loose most of their efficiency.
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Bottom line, you need fresh cold air entering each radiator. Recycling already warmed air is bad juju..biggrin.gif

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I'll have the front 200mm fan, 2 120mm fans up top, and a rear as exhaust, or would intake be better?

intake definitely.
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I only have a 240mm rad on the top I wasn't aware that a 200mm rad would fit up front! Thanks for the heads up. The thing I hate the most is I can't fit the fans in the inside for the 240mm radiator inside this case.

What other size radiator would fit in the front?

Edit: I'm going to put my UT60 on the bottom and get another 240mm rad but a thinner one and put it on the top

It's the Phobya Xtreme 200mm Ver 2. Fits in the front of the 650D with no modding needed.
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intake definitely.

Would heat inside be a problem with all fans on intake? I would imagine that the air blowing through the rads from outside will just recirculate inside the case. That's why maybe having at least 1 fan as exhaust will get rid of that.
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Are you getting all you rads as intake? If so you want your case fans to exhaust that air. Let those rads breath.
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And youll also need to make sure your intakes dont pull that warmed air back in.
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Im getting lost here. You have a front 200 rad, a 240 top rad, and one fan at the back......anything else in the shape of a case fan in there?
Also, will you using filters?
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Yes I have a 200mm front rad, 240mm top rad, and as per suggestions they will be set as intake. I then have a 120mm rear case fan that can be used as exhaust. There are no filters at the top or rear, there is one in the front, however I will be removing some plastic from the mesh cover to increase airflow.
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Great. Also, you have more air being pulled into the case than air being pushed out. That will give you positive pressure, which is good if you have filters on your intakes. If no filters, I would try to get an other exhaust fan going somewhere else. If you have no room for an other fan at the back or on the sides, maybe you could take out any empty PCI brackets that are empty on your back panel....just to give your rads more breathing room.

Myself, I'm lazy, so I prefer filters so I don't have to take my rads apart every 3, 6, or 12 months to dust off my rads. But no filters will increase your airflow, which will increase your performance.....as long as you keep those rads dust free.
A layer of dust on your rads will act as a bit of an insulation, not allowing proper heat transfer.

Anyway, cheers! cheers.gif
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