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post #1 of 8
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I would like to learn more about what type of cooling configurations for fans on a water cooling system all i know is a push/pull, what others are there.

And i would also like to know about the Push/Pull, do you want to air pushing into the radiator from outside the case or what.

Can i have a Push/Pull config with a fan made for Pressure as the push through and a stock fan that comes with rad, as the pull. is that possible, what are the advantages/ disadvantages, and should i do it.

Please respond, this would be greatly appreciated
post #2 of 8
Hi and welcome to OCN

IMO, it is best if you have an identical fan at the same RPM to work on push/pull
that way you would prevent any air vortex in the radiator making it not efficiently cooling the liquid

moreover, yes there are a significant (though not much) performance different by having a push/pull rather than just push or pull setup
there are advantages and disadvantages

Having push/pull would higher the noise level of your rig since there are extra fans but it would slightly lower your temp
but I love having a pull config, it would help me clean the radiator easily especially if you are mounting your radiator at the top of the case

and you will always want to feed the radiator with fresh air if you can

my current rig have rear fan as intake to feed the top radiator
I get optimal cooling out of it
Edited by jokrik - 3/18/13 at 1:48am
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Hi and welcome to water heads anonimous. My name is Pepe and I'm an adict. smile.gif

I also think it would be better to keep the same fans on your rad. But if you are on a budget, mixing them up wont make a big difference so gophorit! thumb.gif

I think airflow is the most critical part of an efficient loop. Guys will debate fins per inch, rad thickness, pump pressure, and water flow until the cows come home. But a well designed air flow into your rad and into your case is the most important, the rest is just gravy.

Here are a few guidelines I like. Of course, meeting all of them will be imposdible as you are limited by the case you have.

- Firstly, and most importantly, no air recycling. Once air goes throught a rad, it is just too warm to use again in an other rad. So have all rads pushing air out or all rads pushing air in. Otherwise, one rad is using the other rad's warm air.

- Push/pull wins every time. If you have no room for push/pull, just go down in radiator thickness until you do have room. With p/p your rads will be more efficient so that will allow you to turn them down to make them even more quiet.

- Cold air is near the floor so iit's best to pull in from below and push out at the top. If you push out under your case, that warm air will rise, and form a bubble of warm air around your case to be trapped back inside.

- Balanced air flow. All air that goes in has to come out. So don't have 3 rads blowing in air and no fans to exhaust out that air. Your rads need to breath.

- Relax and have fun. Water cooling is a hobby in itself. Once you WC you will never go back to air.
And if you can't meet all the guidelines above, you are still fine. It's just more performance that way.

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Ok Thank you both for answering. I know its best to get at least a dual 120mm rad but would it be efficient to get this processor that comes with this cooler....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819106011&Tpk=fx%208150%20liquid&IsVirtualParent=1

I just want to know if this water cooler would be good. I dont want any criticism on the processor, I just want to know about the cooler. I want to go cheap and dont have to money to spend for a $100- $130 Liquid cooler and i want to keep but budget low and its either this cooler or a $50- $70 air cooler.

Please reply with some reviews or benchmarks with this cooler.

Thank you again.
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Personally, I feel a single 120 rad for a CPU loop is not really going to cool much better than a top air cooler.
Aside from that, I am not familiar with the WC kit you linked to.
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How much would a rad cost me, and could i keep this unit, get another rad, hosing, clamps, and new liquid. Would it be possible to open a closed loop system and add another rad and use the reseviour from the original rad?
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I would like you to compare these coolers,


Cooler Master V6GT
Corsair H100i
Corsair H100
Corsair H80i
Corsair H55



Thank you
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If you want a kit that you can later upgrade, I would highly recommend the Swiftech H220 AIO kit.
Here is an excellent review of it:
You can reuse and upgrade just about every part of the kit.
A little more expensive than the H100i but worth it IMHO.

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