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There is more to it people. We need to also know the energy usage. If it does all this and save 20% energy it is a great step up. And indeed we also need to know how well it clocks and how well the memory controller will be.

People that fold with it or use it 24/7 will see it in their energy bill.

How is Haswell going to save 20% without a process node shrink?
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How is Haswell going to save 20% without a process node shrink?

Ivy was the first TRI-gate CPU, they will have refined it but not by much.
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Those benchmarks are close to pointless. Noone is going to be buying Haswell to then play games with integrated graphics. For one, if you're going to compare processors, we need one variable with the rest as controls. Not only is the CPU itself different, but the integrated graphics are also different. I know this is technically apples-to-apples, processor-to-processor, but who's to say what's making most or all of the difference? Secondly, this needs to be tested with discrete cards, or they might as well not bother making charts at all.
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post #14 of 571
Hardly call any of this news...

Still needs to answer the million dollar questions: How's OCing and what kind of TIM?!
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Ivy was the first TRI-gate CPU, they will have refined it but not by much.

Exactly. Why would they give us anything more than a modest improvement when they're facing very little competitive force on the CPU side?

Unless Intel decided not to cheap out on the solder, this looks like the Sandy/Ivy transition all over again.
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Still needs to answer the million dollar questions: How's OCing and what kind of TIM?!

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man the hardware stuff nowadays is so boring. marginal gains. give us leaps and bounds like before!!
 
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post #18 of 571
thanks for this OP. very exciting to see Haswell inching closer!
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I can't see how anyone can be disappointed by these numbers. Intel claimed from the start that Haswell was mostly an IGP improvement over Ivy, and that is exactly what we are seeing here. Marginal difference in CPU gains (+/- 10% - as rumoured) and a noticeable increase in IGP performance.

Seeing as AMD aren't doing anything to threaten Intel on the CPU side of the ball, Intel are in a prime position to put massive R&D into stepping up their IGP performance with each coming generation until AMD release something that makes Intel shift the focus back onto raw CPU performance. Until then, expect to keep seeing Intel focused on closing the IGP gap compared to AMD. If Intel can get on-par with AMD in the IGP department and continue smashing AMD in CPU performance.......say goodbye to AMD. Their market share will diminish even further. Intel are just doing the smart business move and improving their IGP whilst giving modest enough CPU performance to keep AMD behind the game.

Well played Intel, well played
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Hardly call any of this news...

Still needs to answer the million dollar questions: How's OCing and what kind of TIM?!

I am ready

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