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Gonna reiterate what's already been said, why keep beefing up the Igpu on the top end chips? anyone who is going to buy a chip and only use the Igpu are going to go the AMD APU route, especially since AMD got their act together on the CPU side of things. Steamroller cores should match IB cores give or take a few hundred mhz. What intel needs to do is keep the same IGPU on the high end chips and focus on the Ipc and the clockspeeds.

Reason is that the Intel mainstream desktop & mobile chips are made on the same die(to save cost ) and those mobile chips need the IGPU performance. for example:

This 160mm^2 Ivy Bridge Die(Ivy Bridge HE-4/ Stepping E1):


Is used for all Ivy Bridge Quad core chips with HD4000 which include both desktop & mobile(all Ivy Bridge Core i7 QM & XM, 12 SKU total), the mobile parts are just low leakage desktops parts that can hit their stock clock of 2.1-3 Ghz at 35-55W TDP.
Edited by sherlock - 3/18/13 at 3:36pm
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That's about what I expected.

I badly need to upgrade my 2500K as it can't run anything nowdays. Horrific performance with newer games, HD movies are a mess, and video editing is completely out of the question at this point. Makes sense considering how old it is.

Though to be fair, it comes with the territory we're in. Easy come easy go. tongue.gif
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when do we get six cores?

MAOR CORES!!!!
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I love my 3960X. Over a year old and still the most powerful CPU on the market (3970X isn't really any better when OC'd)...

I like the thought of a 3960x but I always wonder if theres any use for a 6 core chip for anything other than rendering over a quad core with HT, as its quite expensive. Do games make use of it?
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They should remove the IGPU on the desktop version and leave it only for laptops. Who the heck buys a high end cpu for the iGPU? 99% of the people have a discrete GPU anyways. It's not like it can play newer games at a resonable resolution. They can't compete with AMD's apus on GPU power. It's just not going to happen.
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when do we get six cores?

MAOR CORES!!!!

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when do we get six cores?

MAOR CORES!!!!

2015 if we are lucky.
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They should remove the IGPU on the desktop version and leave it only for laptops. Who the heck buys a high end cpu for the iGPU? 99% of the people have a discrete GPU anyways. It's not like it can play newer games at a resonable resolution. They can't compete with AMD's apus on GPU power. It's just not going to happen.

Except Intel save cost by making mobile CPU and desktop CPU from the same die.

This die is used for all Intel Ivy Bridge Quad core chips(all Ivy Bridge E1 Stepping chips) with HD4000 ( 15+ SKUs of i5 & i7 desktop quad cores & 12 SKUs of i7 QM & XM Mobile Quad cores):


After the Chip is made Intel bin them for leakage and the low leakage parts goes into laptops, high leakage parts goes to desktops.
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That's about what I expected.

I badly need to upgrade my 2500K as it can't run anything nowdays. Horrific performance with newer games, HD movies are a mess, and video editing is completely out of the question at this point. Makes sense considering how old it is.

Though to be fair, it comes with the territory we're in. Easy come easy go. tongue.gif

I can completely understand you here, my 2500k is just about capable of running a notepad document and forget about trying to type!
I need my 6 cores @ 6ghz now!
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I like the thought of a 3960x but I always wonder if theres any use for a 6 core chip for anything other than rendering over a quad core with HT, as its quite expensive. Do games make use of it?

Crysis 3 is already seeing some gains from the extra cores...
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