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If you're really rocking a Core 2 Duo E4500 like in your sig rig, then a 4770k will be a huge upgrade.

Hi, thanks for replying to me. I may wait for Kaveri and see it's performance too, before I buy something.

Definitely worth the wait, since the GPU even on the current gen APUs are actually stronger than your 8600gt. Imagine having a better CPU and GPU all in one. Fun times sir, fun times thumb.gif
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I never suggested we get a unlocked 8 core IB-E at $600 this year, just said there could be a Deca Core E5 part to replace the current $2K Xeon. My take on I7X pricing is we get Gulftown pricing, which was $900-$1000 for the first year then Intel let out the $570 I7-980(not X) in mid 2011.

The first non extreme 6-core i7 was actually the i7 970 and that launched around 4 months after the 980X. The 980 (non X) was just a replacement for the 970 and both were priced at $570.
 
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The first non extreme 6-core i7 was actually the i7 970 and that launched around 4 months after the 980X. The 980 (non X) was just a replacement for the 970 and both were priced at $570.

970 launched around $885 in July 2010, it was later dropped to $570 sometime in 2011. My point being Intel didn't let lose a $600 level Gulftown chip until almost a year after launch.
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At any rate, one of my beef's with Intel is their iGPU with mid-to-low level CPU's. Ivy Bridge, for instance, I would think it would be more beneficial to have an HD 4000 in all of the CPU's, rather than dumb it down on the mid-to-low level ones with HD 2500's and just have the top-end ones with the HD 4000. Anyone spending $200 - $300 on a CPU is most likely going to get a discrete graphics card to use. Anyone spending less and utilizing the iGPU instead for gaming would be far better off using AMD's APU's, which leaves Intel's mid-to-lower end CPU's in kind of a rut.
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I am running my 2500k @ 4.5ghz with Titan (soon to be under water).

Thinking the 4770k is going to be my next upgrade in the next 6 months or so. How much of a performance increase do you all thinking I would see?
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At any rate, one of my beef's with Intel is their iGPU with mid-to-low level CPU's. Ivy Bridge, for instance, I would think it would be more beneficial to have an HD 4000 in all of the CPU's, rather than dumb it down on the mid-to-low level ones with HD 2500's and just have the top-end ones with the HD 4000. Anyone spending $200 - $300 on a CPU is most likely going to get a discrete graphics card to use. Anyone spending less and utilizing the iGPU instead for gaming would be far better off using AMD's APU's, which leaves Intel's mid-to-lower end CPU's in kind of a rut.


You forget that a 3570K($229.99) & 3770K($329.99) share the same production process as all I7 QM & XM($378-$1096) Mobile CPUs and these mobile CPUs need the HD 4000 IGP performance. They are made from the exact same Ivy Bridge die(Ivy Bridge HE-04, E1 Stepping)


These Quad core mobile chip are infact just chips that binned for low leakage & undervolt/underclock operations, chips that didn't pass this binning end up being (lower profit/margin) desktop chips.
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970 launched around $885 in July 2010, it was later dropped to $570 sometime in 2011. My point being Intel didn't let lose a $600 level Gulftown chip until almost a year after launch.

ah, didn't remember it being so expensive at first, my bad.
 
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I am running my 2500k @ 4.5ghz with Titan (soon to be under water).

Thinking the 4770k is going to be my next upgrade in the next 6 months or so. How much of a performance increase do you all thinking I would see?
Haswell in general is to be 12-17% increase over SB from what I have seen.
then add in hyper-threading since your on a 2500K now.
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You forget that a 3570K & 3770K share the same production process as all I7 XM & QM Mobile CPUs and these mobile CPUs need the HD 4000 IGP performance. These Quad core mobile chip are infact just i7 3770 chips that binned for low leakage & undervolt/underclock operations.
Re-read my comment. It's about getting all their CPU's to have the HD 4000 iGPU's. Those mid-to-lower end have more of a general market to utilize the better iGPU's than the upper end.

And again, are you going to buy a "gaming laptop" with just a HD 4000 on it, spending the extra $500 overpriced price of an i7-3770 mobile equivalent? I hope not.
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Re-read my comment. It's about getting all their CPU's to have the HD 4000 iGPU's. Those mid-to-lower end have more of a general market to utilize the better iGPU's than the upper end.

And again, are you going to buy a "gaming laptop" with just a HD 4000 on it, spending the extra $500 overpriced price of an i7-3770 mobile equivalent? I hope not.

Gaming laptop need a decent IGP for media consumption/Quick Sync while main GPU is under Enduro/Optimus. Plus not all i7 QM/XM are for Gaming Laptop( as 15 inch MacBook Pro is certainly not a Gaming laptop), and the hefty price & margin associated with i7 QM/XM suggest that even if I won't buy it someone else did/will.

My point is Intel high desktop CPU have HD4000 because Intel deem it necessary for their high end mobile CPU to have HD4000.
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i7-6700K  ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger EVGA 1080 FTW TridentZ DDR4-3000 
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Samsung SM951 128GB Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB Muskin Reactor 1TB Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD 
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Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD Corsair H110i GT Windows 10 Pro  Acer XB321HK 32" 4K G-sync 
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Corsair K70 Rapid Fire EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 NZXT H440 Black Logitech G900  
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Razer Vespula CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD - PFC Sinewave UPS Syst... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700HQ 2.8Ghz(3.8Ghz Turbo) Dell XPS 15-9560 Nvidia GTX 1050 8GB DDR4-2400 
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256GB PCIE SSD Windows 10 Pro 15.6" 1080p 
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XPS 15
(7 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-6700K  ASUS Maximus VIII Ranger EVGA 1080 FTW TridentZ DDR4-3000 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung SM951 128GB Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB Muskin Reactor 1TB Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Seagate Baracuda 2TB ST2000DM001 HDD Corsair H110i GT Windows 10 Pro  Acer XB321HK 32" 4K G-sync 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Corsair K70 Rapid Fire EVGA SuperNova 650 P2 NZXT H440 Black Logitech G900  
Mouse PadOther
Razer Vespula CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD - PFC Sinewave UPS Syst... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-7700HQ 2.8Ghz(3.8Ghz Turbo) Dell XPS 15-9560 Nvidia GTX 1050 8GB DDR4-2400 
Hard DriveOSMonitor
256GB PCIE SSD Windows 10 Pro 15.6" 1080p 
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