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Intel seems to like their market position, don't they.
Wanna bet? biggrin.gif

Also they seem to have stopped increasing clocks, isn't the turbo the same as ivy?

Intel has been dominating the market since 2006. They have no reason to increase ipc or clocks unless amd blows them out of the water
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I thought Haswell was supposed to be a large improvement over SB/IVB. I guess with AMD out of the picture Intel can continue to make minimal gains while still charging top dollar.

I was really hoping that Haswell would be the one to upgrade to. Now I'm not so motivated to upgrade.
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post #33 of 571
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Intel has been dominating the market since 2006. They have no reason to increase ipc or clocks unless amd blows them out of the water

They still have to compete with their old offerings if they want to keep selling millions of cpus. Intel has always dominated the x86 scene, amd has been hovering around the 20% marketshare mark since forever.
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man the hardware stuff nowadays is so boring. marginal gains. give us leaps and bounds like before!!

This.

I want something like Athlon XP -> Athlon64, or Pentium D -> Core2Duo.
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They still have to compete with their old offerings if they want to keep selling millions of cpus. Intel has always dominated the x86 scene, amd has been hovering around the 20% marketshare mark since forever.

Back in the Opteron 2xx days, AMD had a 54% server marketshare.
   
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Performance seems not really better.
2 points i want to know now:

1) Energy consumption
2) Overclocking (5 ghz possible on air?)
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They still have to compete with their old offerings if they want to keep selling millions of cpus. Intel has always dominated the x86 scene, amd has been hovering around the 20% marketshare mark since forever.

People will still buy haswell in droves even with a 7-10% ipc gain. Ill buy first day and I'm sure countless others will on the forum. Its a cheap upgrade unlike back in the 2000s when top of the line mainstream processors were 699.99 and up
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this is borderline depressing. oh well, no demand for more power. we'll just keep getting shafted at this rate... in other news, my 2500k is still relevant!
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So this is a Intel i7 with "4770" Graphics! Wow will be epic!! biggrin.gif
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Sadly, regardless of only a minimal upgrade I'll still upgrade my 3770k to a 4770k - just cos ;P
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This should be an excellent upgrade for people still on Core 2 Duos / Quads and the first generation Core CPUs, but for SB and IB, not so much, except for overclocking.

Intel realised that enthusiasts require more added performance per upgrade than what they are currently offering (besides, only a minority upgrade every year), that is why Broadwell won't be available in socketed form, because it doesn't make much sense. On the other hand, when the successor to Broadwell arrives, the added IPC on top of what Broadwell will be offering, along with a mature 14nm process, will make the proposal a lot more desirable for enthusiasts. Other consumers who want something new will buy Broadwell equipped PCs, and won't mind the lack of CPU upgradeability because they are not enthusiasts. We''ll see how much sense that makes from a repairability and logistics point of view, but that is another story.

All in all, Haswell should be regarded as a long term platform for mainstream enthusiasts. And in that regard it should overclock quite well, not to mention that that is a selling point for enthusiasts who would otherwise not have much of a reason to upgrade from SB / IB. They also manage to make peace with enthusiasts after the TIM debacle with IB and prove that the 22nm Tri-gate process is now mature.
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