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At least they've managed some sort of CPU increase..... More then AMD can muster up these days....
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At least they've managed some sort of CPU increase..... More then AMD can muster up these days....

Not sure if trolling or just really stupid.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/4

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6347/amd-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-trinity-on-the-desktop-part-2/4

Exactly where did AMD fail to improve their last generation, by a large margin?
Edited by Artikbot - 3/20/13 at 1:13am
   
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Over 93% efficiency at 30A load... Nice little dirver MOS thumb.gif. They could make a 6 phase version (or even 4!) of this and still have some impressive efficiencies.

I really want 6 or 8 phases using IR3550 since my next build is for high-end air cooling for mATX. SFF should still allow for high OC on air.

I only used up a third of the space in my current case. A nice custom case that can fit a 4 slot GPU can be a very quiet little monster.
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so it looks like I should go with the more cost effective route of cheaper costs on a 2600k setup
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Maybe if Intel didn't release IB and directly released Haswell after SB then this would have been interesting. I know it would to me.
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starcraft 2. Pretty much any RTS with large numbers of units for that matter.
these are my fraps 180s (well 2 of them) tests @1440p on q9550@3.4GHz and evga 660ftw 3gb
2013-03-12 22:11:47 - SC2
Frames: 9869 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 54.828 - Min: 46 - Max: 60
2013-03-12 22:38:12 - SC2
Frames: 6105 - Time: 137827ms - Avg: 44.295 - Min: 32 - Max: 54
2013-03-12 22:52:06 - SC2
Frames: 8770 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 48.722 - Min: 30 - Max: 58

even big battles with 2 large armies are fluid (i play major late game battles with my friends). anyway i would gladly go 1150 or 2011 but it looks like 1150 and even later generations are going to be a one gen sockets so why waste money on it if theres no upgradability. even if i went with 1155 i would probably just go for 2700k as one can overclock it much better

as in a cpu bottleneck benchmark on guru3d was said, if it has 4 cores and clock around 3.5ghz you are set when playing @1200+
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7970_cpu_scaling_performance_review,8.html

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Not sure if trolling or just really stupid.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/4

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6347/amd-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-trinity-on-the-desktop-part-2/4

Exactly where did AMD fail to improve their last generation, by a large margin?

Moving the newer FX architecture resulted in quite a big drop in IPC....

Every time Intel change architectures they make a decent jump in IPC and a OK jump for architecture revisions.
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Moving the newer FX architecture resulted in quite a big drop in IPC....

Every time Intel change architectures they make a decent jump in IPC and a OK jump for architecture revisions.


The jump from Bulldozer to Piledriver was much more significant than the jump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell. I believe that was Artikbots point. IPC may have dropped, but performance has been gained.
Edited by M3T4LM4N222 - 3/20/13 at 2:53am
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The jump from Bulldozer to Piledriver was much more significant than the jump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell. I believe that was Artikbots point.

My whole point was that it's too easy to dump crap on AMD 'because bulld0z0rz s0x hurr'. Without actually realising that performance has IMPROVED. And that Piledriver is based on Bulldozer too, and it is considerably more powerful than the forever venerated ancient Phenom II.

And on the APU front, not only it has improved, but it has skyrocketed.

IPC means nothing on its own. IPS is what matters.
   
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Moving the newer FX architecture resulted in quite a big drop in IPC....

Every time Intel change architectures they make a decent jump in IPC and a OK jump for architecture revisions.

Haswell is based on IB, which was based on SB, which was based on Nehalem, which was based on Core2Duo's architecture, which was based on P3 architecture. They did do a completely brand new ground up architecture, and that resulted in P4, which was orders of magnitude worse than the Bulldozer situation.

Bulldozer was designed from the ground up, and completely new. Just fixing Bulldozer's relatively minor mistakes resulted in 5-10% greater IPC and 10% higher clock speeds, a net gain of about 15-20% for minor revisions. Steamroller will have the big changes, and AMD is implementing some of the techniques that gave SB its major boost over Nehalem, like uOP cache, etc. Will they catch up to the same IPC level? Probably not. Intel also has the node advantage. Will it be competitive? Yes.
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