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these are my fraps 180s (well 2 of them) tests @1440p on q9550@3.4GHz and evga 660ftw 3gb
2013-03-12 22:11:47 - SC2
Frames: 9869 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 54.828 - Min: 46 - Max: 60
2013-03-12 22:38:12 - SC2
Frames: 6105 - Time: 137827ms - Avg: 44.295 - Min: 32 - Max: 54
2013-03-12 22:52:06 - SC2
Frames: 8770 - Time: 180000ms - Avg: 48.722 - Min: 30 - Max: 58

even big battles with 2 large armies are fluid (i play major late game battles with my friends). anyway i would gladly go 1150 or 2011 but it looks like 1150 and even later generations are going to be a one gen sockets so why waste money on it if theres no upgradability. even if i went with 1155 i would probably just go for 2700k as one can overclock it much better

as in a cpu bottleneck benchmark on guru3d was said, if it has 4 cores and clock around 3.5ghz you are set when playing @1200+
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7970_cpu_scaling_performance_review,8.html

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Those minimum and average fps puke.gif
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Those minimum and average fps puke.gif

What? They are perfectly fine.
   
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Those minimum and average fps puke.gif

He's running a single 660ti my friend, he's not going to be getting 99999fps.
If you've got a family to feed then you're going to prioritize that over your PC. Well, unless you have a sims family that is.
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its not a ti smile.gif just 660ftw

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Moving the newer FX architecture resulted in quite a big drop in IPC....

Every time Intel change architectures they make a decent jump in IPC and a OK jump for architecture revisions.

Haswell is based on IB, which was based on SB, which was based on Nehalem, which was based on Core2Duo's architecture, which was based on P3 architecture. They did do a completely brand new ground up architecture, and that resulted in P4, which was orders of magnitude worse than the Bulldozer situation.

Bulldozer was designed from the ground up, and completely new. Just fixing Bulldozer's relatively minor mistakes resulted in 5-10% greater IPC and 10% higher clock speeds, a net gain of about 15-20% for minor revisions. Steamroller will have the big changes, and AMD is implementing some of the techniques that gave SB its major boost over Nehalem, like uOP cache, etc. Will they catch up to the same IPC level? Probably not. Intel also has the node advantage. Will it be competitive? Yes.

You need to do some home work.... The Pentium 4 was not the last time Intel made a new architecture from scratch.

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The truth is there really isn't a need in the consumer level for a great increase in performance over Ivy. Most modern-day tasks do not utilize more than what the i7-4770k would handle. If people would need greater CPU power, then that's the reason why there's Extreme-line processors (e.g. 3930k, 3970x and upcoming ivy bridge-e). Remember, i7-4770k is still targeted to casual consumers. And heck yes, gaming doesn't require great CPU horsepower, too.
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Too early to judge Haswell without Overclocking results & GT3.
Edited by sherlock - 3/20/13 at 8:17am
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You need to do some home work.... The Pentium 4 was not the last time Intel made a new architecture from scratch.

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Then educate me. You seriously think that each time they do a tock, they do a brand new architecture from the ground up? And we're just focusing on the major architectures here, not the minor ones nobody outside of a few specialized applications use.

It took AMD several years to get Bulldozer to be ready, and when it came out, there were still a lot of rough, unfinished areas. Intel definitely doesn't do a ground up architecture every two years.
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The jump from Bulldozer to Piledriver was much more significant than the jump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell. I believe that was Artikbots point. IPC may have dropped, but performance has been gained.

When intel went from Nehalem to westmere there was no jump in ipc. None at all. All that was gained was better power consumption and temps. That's why it was so dramatic from nehalem to sandy bridge. If we would have no ipc gains with ivy then the jump from sandy to Haswell would have been much more dramatic.

We are the minority and intel doesn't care about us. What they care about is the laptop aspect because that's where the money is.
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When intel went from Nehalem to westmere there was no jump in ipc. None at all. All that was gained was better power consumption and temps. That's why it was so dramatic from nehalem to sandy bridge. If we would have no ipc gains with ivy then the jump from sandy to Haswell would have been much more dramatic.

We are the minority and intel doesn't care about us. What they care about is the laptop aspect because that's where the money is.

True, the IB tick was fairly unusual in that there were actual architecture tweaks instead of just the usual die shrink.
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