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When the same TSX can be had if you bought non-Ks?

Basically, yea. You can't overclock non-Ks to increase its throughput.

There's also already been precedents to this (VT-d).
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When the same TSX can be had if you bought non-Ks?

Basically, yea. You can't overclock non-Ks to increase its throughput.

There's also already been precedents to this (VT-d).

 

Oh really.. and what stops you from doing this exactly? Unless your talking about running a OEM mobo.. there has been FSB/BCLK adjustment on boards since I was a youngin' wink.gif Pretty sure the non-K's will be very popular again. More so than the last 2x generations anyhow.

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Just find that the fourth generation i7 doesn't improve a lot
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Oh really.. and what stops you from doing this exactly? Unless your talking about running a OEM mobo.. there has been FSB/BCLK adjustment on boards since I was a youngin' wink.gif
 Pretty sure the non-K's will be very popular again. More so than the last 2x generations anyhow.

If Intel does the same thing as they did to SB, which is very likely, then overclocking the BCLK by more than 10% will cause instability in other subsystems like PCI-E, SATA, etc, which renders the entire system unusable.
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If Intel does the same thing as they did to SB, which is very likely, then overclocking the BCLK by more than 10% will cause instability in other subsystems like PCI-E, SATA, etc, which renders the entire system unusable.

It could also be like Sandy Bridge-E with BCLK strapping(there are hints/rumors about Haswell BCLK OC). People have been OCing i7-3820 to 4.6-5.0Ghz with the 125 BCLK strap for a long time.
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It could also be like Sandy Bridge-E with BCLK strapping(there are hints/rumors about Haswell BCLK OC). People have been OCing i7-3820 to 4.6-5.0Ghz with the 125 BCLK strap for a long time.

I'm well aware of that, being the owner of a 3820 system myself. But Intel can very well lock that feature down to K CPUs only, as SB-E Xeons do not have that feature.
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So it looks like it will be a heck of a great CPU for HTPCs provided the heat is similar or better to ivy - finally shouldn't have any reason to require a discrete GPU for video and light gaming on the TV. But really no reason to upgrade unless there's way more headroom than 3770K on Z77 - since they're almost all good for close to 5GHz (4.6-5.4 depending on cooling and delid). If it was a S1155 chip I'd say upgrade would be a no-brainer, but when you have to include a new motherboard in the price, and couple that with the fact that the 3770K will probably drop to ~$200 retail once Haswell is released... Meh.
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, and couple that with the fact that the 3770K will probably drop to ~$200 retail once Haswell is released... Meh.

I don't think Intel has ever dropped the prices of their processors since 775. I mean a 2600K is still $320 and the freaking i3-560 is still $150 on Newegg... What I'm more interested in is the new logo for Intel processors biggrin.gif (they are due for a new one anyhow).
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The question is, what kind of GPU will the i3s get? Obviously it's going to be weaker than the i7s, but is it sufficient for a HTPC?
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I don't think Intel has ever dropped the prices of their processors since 775. I mean a 2600K is still $320 and the freaking i3-560 is still $150 on Newegg... What I'm more interested in is the new logo for Intel processors biggrin.gif (they are due for a new one anyhow).

Intel isn't likely to drop their prices... but all the secondary market prices will drop greatly... that will shortly be followed by a drop in the retail market - maybe not all of them but many retailers that have large inventories will start liquidating at ~$200 I would guess. Heck, Microcenter's had the 3770K at just over $240 for a couple of months and now they're only asking $230 for them. They don't even carry the 2700K any longer. Newegg isn't usually the best place to find deals... they're just the best place to find almost everything (except custom WC stuff at least)... prices are only decent.
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