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Haswell E please.

Keep dreaming.
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June 2nd is a sunday. Sandy was released on a sunday as well
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If it could hit 5GHz on air or higher on a Liquid Cooling Setup......What would be the most recognizable performance feature?
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Early June, and Z87 Motherboards will be ready at the same time.

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Intel leaked papers said initial shipments to distributors between 27 May to 6? June. No info/shipment to user can be initiated before 2 June.

Thanks. I haven't kept up the last few months in regards to when Z87 was due out.
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If it could hit 5GHz on air or higher on a Liquid Cooling Setup......What would be the most recognizable performance feature?

It's ability to make amd fanboys cry wink.gif
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Funny how allot of people are saying: " not much innovation, ill stay with my 3570k"

Like that is so much innovation over 2500k, atleast that chip runs 4.8ghz / 4.9ghz on a cheap 25$ cooler
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Funny how allot of people are saying: " not much innovation, ill stay with my 3570k"

Like that is so much innovation over 2500k, atleast that chip runs 4.8ghz / 4.9ghz on a cheap 25$ cooler

Didn't have to buy a new motherboard to upgrade to ivy tho
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Funny how allot of people are saying: " not much innovation, ill stay with my 3570k"

Like that is so much innovation over 2500k, atleast that chip runs 4.8ghz / 4.9ghz on a cheap 25$ cooler

However, that is not always the case (especially with early release samples). Not that I'm saying it will be the same with Haswell necessarily, but I got one of the first retail 2500K's and it is absolute crap for OC headroom and heat. At 4.3GHz it hits 75C loaded and the push to 4.5GHz required such a huge bump in voltage to get stable that between the temps and the vcore I would never have felt comfortable running 24/7 at anything over 4.3GHz. On the other hand, even the crappiest 3570K I've owned did 4.5GHz in the exact same system (as the 2500K originally) with no vcore bump at all (the temps were nearly identical with the 2500K however).

From what I've read in posts from people that bought very early release 3570K/3770K chips, they had huge problems that I never really saw with IB. Nearly all of the most recent released IB chips have had no problems hitting 5GHz at reasonable volts/temps with decent cooling. Since Haswell is the same fab process I would expect it to be even better - but not a totally different animal. However, based on my experiences with both Sandy and Ivy... the Haswell SKUs that are released in 2014 will be the ones that are truly fantastic... and the earliest samples may not be so wonderful.

As with everything, YMMV but I'm quite happy waiting awhile before looking at a different platform.
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However, that is not always the case (especially with early release samples). Not that I'm saying it will be the same with Haswell necessarily, but I got one of the first retail 2500K's and it is absolute crap for OC headroom and heat. At 4.3GHz it hits 75C loaded and the push to 4.5GHz required such a huge bump in voltage to get stable that between the temps and the vcore I would never have felt comfortable running 24/7 at anything over 4.3GHz. On the other hand, even the crappiest 3570K I've owned did 4.5GHz in the exact same system (as the 2500K originally) with no vcore bump at all (the temps were nearly identical with the 2500K however).

From what I've read in posts from people that bought very early release 3570K/3770K chips, they had huge problems that I never really saw with IB. Nearly all of the most recent released IB chips have had no problems hitting 5GHz at reasonable volts/temps with decent cooling. Since Haswell is the same fab process I would expect it to be even better - but not a totally different animal. However, based on my experiences with both Sandy and Ivy... the Haswell SKUs that are released in 2014 will be the ones that are truly fantastic... and the earliest samples may not be so wonderful.

As with everything, YMMV but I'm quite happy waiting awhile before looking at a different platform.

Haswell chips produced after Broadwell is released will truly be amazing
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Haswell chips produced after Broadwell is released will truly be amazing

Yep that's what I'm figuring - but really, they should start being fantastic after the first 5-6 runs or so most likely (at least if SB/IB is any indication). They do obviously 'tweak' their fabrication process a little after the first runs.
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