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Besides cpu and gpu on a mobo, what is the bare minimum for a computer? I guess you can take out the hard drives and boot a Live Linux distros, or boot applications from CD with HirensBootCD, run tools like memetest dariks boot and nuke and other stuff.

To take it one step further, can you do anything without any RAM? Can a PC POST with no RAM? I guess you wont be able then, to run a LiveCD installation cause cpu wants to dump stuff to the RAM, but can you still run dos apps, hirens bootCD, dariks boot and nuke or cli applications?

Has anyone tried something like this?
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A system cannot start without memory installed.  So, the bare minimum installed on the motherboard for it to perform its POST (the Power-On Self Test) is just a CPU and memory.

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post #3 of 20
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You cant even go to BIOS without memory?

You didnt mention GPU. Is it possible to POST without GPU? Besides graphics cards and system on chips that include graphic processing on cpu, is there something other that will allow visual on Monitor for command line environments?
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post #4 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by therock003 View Post

You cant even go to BIOS without memory?

 

In order to get into the BIOS, the motherboard has to perform its POST.

 

 

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Originally Posted by therock003 View Post

You didnt mention GPU. Is it possible to POST without GPU? Besides graphics cards and system on chips that include graphic processing on cpu, is there something other that will allow visual on Monitor for command line environments?

 

I accidentally learned recently that a system will indeed start all the way up and even go to the operating system without a video card in the slot.

 

Without a video card or onboard video, you will not be able to see anything on your monitor.

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post #5 of 20
CPU, motherboard, memory, PSU.

Plus some sort of video adapter if you want to see anything.
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post #6 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I accidentally learned recently that a system will indeed start all the way up and even go to the operating system without a video card in the slot.

Without a video card or onboard video, you will not be able to see anything on your monitor.

It depends. I'm not sure about the more recent boards, but the older boards had an option where you could tell it to halt if it doesn't detect certain components (graphics card, keyboard, etc.).
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post #7 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by therock003 View Post

Besides cpu and gpu on a mobo, what is the bare minimum for a computer? I guess you can take out the hard drives and boot a Live Linux distros, or boot applications from CD with HirensBootCD, run tools like memetest dariks boot and nuke and other stuff.

To take it one step further, can you do anything without any RAM? Can a PC POST with no RAM? I guess you wont be able then, to run a LiveCD installation cause cpu wants to dump stuff to the RAM, but can you still run dos apps, hirens bootCD, dariks boot and nuke or cli applications?

Has anyone tried something like this?

DOS applications do use memory.
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I think a power supply to give the parts power would help
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post #9 of 20

I thought the PSU was assumed.

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post #10 of 20
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Besides a pci card, can you use a usb card to have video output? I'm thinking of selling my geforce 2 to collectors and also selling one of the 2 memory sticks. Even if DOS needs memory i can still sell my 512 sdr ram and leave the 128 for the system.
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