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It's not that DOS needs memory:  it's that the motherboard requires the memory in order to even function.  It won't boot without memory which means a motherboard is useless without memory installed into its slots.

 

Anyway:  a USB adapter might work if you don't have a video card or onboard video, but I'm not sure.


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Besides a pci card, can you use a usb card to have video output? I'm thinking of selling my geforce 2 to collectors and also selling one of the 2 memory sticks. Even if DOS needs memory i can still sell my 512 sdr ram and leave the 128 for the system.

Only after booting an operating system with the necessary drivers. For DOS you'll need a PCI card.
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Besides cpu and gpu on a mobo, what is the bare minimum for a computer? I guess you can take out the hard drives and boot a Live Linux distros, or boot applications from CD with HirensBootCD, run tools like memetest dariks boot and nuke and other stuff.

To take it one step further, can you do anything without any RAM? Can a PC POST with no RAM? I guess you wont be able then, to run a LiveCD installation cause cpu wants to dump stuff to the RAM, but can you still run dos apps, hirens bootCD, dariks boot and nuke or cli applications?

Has anyone tried something like this?

it should beep with out RAM. thats good indicator if the board has any life or not, is if it beeps with out RAM. Though some boards don't beep with out RAM.
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OK I see. BTW i have 2 sticks of SDR Ram, 1x 128 ans 1x512mb. I'm thinking of giving away the 512, so will only have the first one. If i dont boot windows are there any benefits on having the 512mb as well? I guess 640mb are still not enough to run Linux Live right?
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OK I see. BTW i have 2 sticks of SDR Ram, 1x 128 ans 1x512mb. I'm thinking of giving away the 512, so will only have the first one. If i dont boot windows are there any benefits on having the 512mb as well? I guess 640mb are still not enough to run Linux Live right?

It depends. If you're planning on using command line, it should be fine. If you want the GUI you can't run a recent distro well with less than 1 GB unless you're using something like Puppy.
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OK I see. BTW i have 2 sticks of SDR Ram, 1x 128 ans 1x512mb. I'm thinking of giving away the 512, so will only have the first one. If i dont boot windows are there any benefits on having the 512mb as well? I guess 640mb are still not enough to run Linux Live right?

128mb of ram will not even run Windows XP properly.

EDIT: well it will "run" but be so slow you will not want to use it
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So even if i keep the 512 stick i dont have much chances of running anything heavy. I guess my only option is to retrieve an old 40GB 2.5'' laptop drive i have stashed somehwere, install a command line unix like astrerix that doesnt even require screen, and then i wont even have to use a graphics card, since it will post and i dont even need the screen. So cpu, 128mb ram and 40" drive will do the trick as bare minimum right?
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what are you wanting this computer to do once you have stripped it down to next to nothing anyways?
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what are you wanting this computer to do once you have stripped it down to next to nothing anyways?

Either use it as a PBX, or server, or router. Also have it run legacy command line applications, since there are still some diagnostics that are useful and run on DOS. But i need to discard as much hardware as possible, so it will draw less power, and catch less dust, plus sell the ones i dont need.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

It's not that DOS needs memory:  it's that the motherboard requires the memory in order to even function.  It won't boot without memory which means a motherboard is useless without memory installed into its slots.
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Originally Posted by ixjf View Post

DOS applications do use memory.

Everything uses memory.

Even the BIOS and basic device addressing needs RAM to function on x86 (including x86-64) based systems. And cache doesn't count because it's generally not independently addressable.
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Besides a pci card, can you use a usb card to have video output?

These will work inside an OS that has drivers for it, but normally not otherwise.
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Either use it as a PBX, or server, or router. Also have it run legacy command line applications, since there are still some diagnostics that are useful and run on DOS. But i need to discard as much hardware as possible, so it will draw less power, and catch less dust, plus sell the ones i dont need.

If you are running DOS, it's unlikely that a USB video adapter is going to work.

Buy an old 30 dollar netbook, should do all this just fine and will be essentially an entire system on on 4"x6" board, won't use more than 20w or so, and probably won't need any active cooling.
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