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After a brief journey into TJMaxx territory using the stock paste included with my 212 evo I'm wondering if it would be worth my time to replace the stock paste with Liquid Pro? The rig in my sig is my first build ever and in hindsight I realize that I applied an excessive amount of the stock compound during the build. I'm wondering if Liquid Pro on a 3570K that has not been delidded would help with temps or is the TIM under the HIS going to be a weak link that will limit Liquid Pro's effectiveness?
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Your cooler is a good one for that price range, however it is inadequate to cool Ivy when trying to reach higher overclocks.

I would not recommend letting your highest core temp reach 95c or above during any stress testing. What multiplier and voltage are you trying to use, are you sure all your bios settings are correct to oc Ivy on an Asus mobo?

I use Ultra on my die and on top of the IHS. It is similar to Pro, and will cut temps when used on top of the IHS by 3 to 5c depeding on which TIM you are using. Using too much or too little TIM, or a non optimal mount of your cooler can make a measureable difference it temps.

I would suggest trying to get a better TIM application and cooler mount, then see what your temps are. Also, Pro/Ultra will leave a stain on the IHS that can be removed but it is not easy. I don't recommend people use it until they know what they are getting themselves into.
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Originally Posted by BulletSponge View Post

After a brief journey into TJMaxx territory using the stock paste included with my 212 evo I'm wondering if it would be worth my time to replace the stock paste with Liquid Pro? The rig in my sig is my first build ever and in hindsight I realize that I applied an excessive amount of the stock compound during the build. I'm wondering if Liquid Pro on a 3570K that has not been delidded would help with temps or is the TIM under the HIS going to be a weak link that will limit Liquid Pro's effectiveness?

Just don't put CLU in contact with aluminium. Copper and nickel, okay. It reacts with alu. See the manufacturers instructions on their web site.
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I would not recommend letting your highest core temp reach 95c or above during any stress testing. What multiplier and voltage are you trying to use, are you sure all your bios settings are correct to oc Ivy on an Asus mobo?

My first overclock was the standard boot into bios, raise multi to 42 and reboot. Passed IBT fine(max ram) so I decided to go higher. I followed Swags Ivy Bridge Overclocking Guide ► Asus Motherboards bios settings when going higher. First I set vcore (manual) at 1.2 and multiplier to 43. Again passed IBT (max ram) no problem. Raised multiplier to 4.4 and left vcore at 1.2 and passed IBT once again at same settings. Temps were getting into the mid-high 80's at this point but I decided to try 4.5 anyway. With 4.5 multiplier/1.2 vcore temps IMMEDIATELY shot into the 90's running IBT. I stopped the test, went back in the bios and set the multiplier back to 4.4 and tried vcore at 1.19. Passed IBT once again and my highest core temp was @ 85c. At 4.4/1.18 I passed IBT again with the highest core temp @ 82. Once I set the vcore at 1.17 though IBT failed repeatedly on the first run. Raising vcore incrementally back to 1.2 would not pass IBT even in a single run. As a matter of fact it will no longer pass at 4.2 whether it is the change multiplier to 42/ rinse and repeat method or by using the complete settings in Swags guide. I bought this 3570k on release day and would not be surprised if it was somewhat of a dud but I'm completely new to cpu oc'ing.
Before anyone jumps all over me, yes I am aware that IBT is no substitute for a proper 24 hour Prime95 custom blend. I was simply using IBT looking for a starting point for Prime95. Currently, I have returned bios settings to stock by clearing CMOS. I'm eager to try hitting 4.5 or above but for now I'm content to save some coin for the Thermaltake 2.0 Pro and some quality TIM.
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If you following Swag's guide then you are good. I used to oc my chips and it worked perfectly.

As you know we recommend using Prime95 with 90% ram usage and checking for WHEA warnings in Event Viewer. IBT is good for quick checks, but you need to use a 12+ hour Prime95 test to know what is stable. It is hard to know exactly what your chip can do until you do a longer test. You are correct though, a higher end cooler will be needed to get your oc up much. Don't worry about using ultra/pro on the IHS at this point, any high quality TIM will do. Just read some reviews and pick your favorite.
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Hmm, just discovered that I'm now failing IBT at stock clocks even after clearing CMOS. Looks like a Windows reinstall is in my future sadsmiley.gif
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Try reflashing bios you may have the Asus bios bug. Worth trying that before windows install.
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