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Goes in the thread... Finds poor Performance/$ Bad... Backs away slowly before fanboys smell his consumer scent!
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People do have a point, it is a bit over priced but I think that has been overused. It's getting old hearing about how much they are charging, at least they are up front. Man, it's just as bad as the Intel/AMD flame wars, who gives a crap? I paid $80 for my quad core (unlocked luckily) but you don't see me harassing Intel folks who buy chips that are 2-3x the price? Why, it's their money and they are big boys. Adults can spend the cash however they want, so why should you care? I also find it tiresome and I'm not even a man with the money to drop like I'm a big balla. Which I find a funny term on a "nerdy" site, since that's really not an appropriate term to use if you knew the background (looked, yeah as I thought ballin did come from baller but is more commonly found with the drip if ya know what I mean). Anyways, it would be nice for people to stop commenting over and over again about price.

Oh, and it is pretty apt in cars. Considering people drop 500k on a car that mildly performs better than a 300k or even 200k car. Max top speed for a consumer vehicle is about what, 245? I think that's around the world record, we aren't talking actual race models but street legal. I think the average porche can do around 205? Quite a bit cheaper and still beats most cars on the street today, in fact you don't need a porche for any logical reasons. Do you need the Titan? Not really, still nice to be able to drop whatever you want on the product and say your machine rocks anything out there isn't it? I think so.
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People saying if you don't buy titan is because cheap/no money, this mini titan wouldn't exist. We vote with our wallets and nvidia is seeing that.

Titan is NOT the great success nvidia was planning after all.
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I read no comments in this thread bashing anyone's system or mocking them in anyway.

Just because you don't like reading peoples opinions doesn't mean they shouldn't be posted if they are relevant to the discussion.

What I find pathetic is people jumping to the defense of a multi billion dollar company (a company which, like every other company exists to make as much money off us as possible.) They have millions of dollars in advertising to sell their products, I don't know why people waste their time doing it for free.

People tend anthropomorphize companies, especially enthusiast type companies. The best thing I heard from a teacher as a young man was "businesses don't love you". We should all take that to heart.
 
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If this is true, THIS is THE card i've been waiting for to replace my 690. I'll gladly take 184 less cores and 1GB less VRAM that I won't even utilize on a single 1400p monitor and save $800 by SLI'ing a pair of these over Titans.

If it launches anywhere around $600, it will easily be worth it...2 @ $1,200, compared to $2,000 for 2x Titans? Yes, please! That extra $800 saved would work well towards a Haswell or Ivy Bridge-E build, too, or heck, even a third for Tri-SLI (would go multi-monitor for that of course..).

I can't see the performance delta being that significant, either - especially not for the price difference. It'll most likely be like the difference between a 670 and 680, which we're talking is in the single-digits in terms of performance percentage.

Definitely tempering expectations since this is obviously a rumor, but Nvidia would pretty much sweep the market with a card like this... thumb.gif
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The reason the price/performance argument is getting tiring is not because people shouldn't be allowed to talk about it it's because of the way people are using it.

A normal discussion about Titan might go like this:

person 1: yeah it's great at 1600p, I wonder how the OC affects performance?
person 2: Apparently they OC very nicely after a BIOS flash, scales well with it too
person 1: that's great to hear, I just wish it was a bit cheaper
person 2: yeah but it is what it is, best GPU around, besides if you're interested in compute, it's a great card
person 3 in reply to person 1 and 2: The price/performance sucks, it's bad value.
person 1: yeah true but I don't care
person 2 yes we know it's not a price/perf card
person 3 again in reply to 1 and 2: But it's not good value, why would buying one make sense?
person 1 and 2: yes we get that, can we just discuss the card instead of the price since we all know it's bad price/perf?
person 3: Price is always important! Everyone should be able to talk about the price!

The point isn't that you can't talk about it, the point is that don't push it in the faces of people who aren't interested as an argument. Everyone knows it's not good value. What is the point of the same people saying it 200 times often in reply to someone else discussing the card itself? Just drop by in a thread to say that for you the card is bad because of value and that's a good argument you made, quote people and repeat it 10 times after being told that people don't care and it's a very bad argument.
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People saying if you don't buy titan is because cheap/no money, this mini titan wouldn't exist. We vote with our wallets and nvidia is seeing that.

Titan is NOT the great success nvidia was planning after all.

That must mean that the 580 wasn't a success because they released the 570. And the 680 didn't succeed either due to the 670.

I'd like to see how you can say that it wasn't a success when you obviously have absolutely no sales numbers and the card is still selling out at the normal retail price. That and it achieved what it set out to do, be the best performing GPU in the world with no competition.
 
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The reason the price/performance argument is getting tiring is not because people shouldn't be allowed to talk about it it's because of the way people are using it.

A normal discussion about Titan might go like this:

person 1: yeah it's great at 1600p, I wonder how the OC affects performance?
person 2: Apparently they OC very nicely after a BIOS flash, scales well with it too
person 1: that's great to hear, I just wish it was a bit cheaper
person 2: yeah but it is what it is, best GPU around, besides if you're interested in compute, it's a great card
person 3 in reply to person 1 and 2: The price/performance sucks, it's bad value.
person 1: yeah true but I don't care
person 2 yes we know it's not a price/perf card
person 3 again in reply to 1 and 2: But it's not good value, why would buying one make sense?
person 1 and 2: yes we get that, can we just discuss the card instead of the price since we all know it's bad price/perf?
person 3: Price is always important! Everyone should be able to talk about the price!

The point isn't that you can't talk about it, the point is that don't push it in the faces of people who aren't interested as an argument. Everyone knows it's not good value. What is the point of the same people saying it 200 times often in reply to someone else discussing the card itself? Just drop by in a thread to say that for you the card is bad because of value and that's a good argument you made, quote people and repeat it 10 times after being told that people don't care and it's a very bad argument.

LoL, this is a nice little script. It's funny because I have seen this many times in Titan threads.tongue.gif
    
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Saw earlier in the thread people mentioning this 'GTX Titanium' as possibly being the 780. I don't see it.

Nvidia, in my opinion, wouldn't go from 1.5GB VRAM for the high-end 400 and 500 series, to 2GB VRAM in the 600 series, to 5GB VRAM in the 700 series for the high-end cards.

I think it's more likely that it is what it is - a cut-down version of the Titan.
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Gee alatar don't you think something may be wrong with the card if that happens so often? Like I don't know, its super expensive and people don't think it justifies its price? That comes to mind.
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Didn't see that happen with the 690, it happened with the 7970 but not for the 680. Don't recall it happening with the 5870 either happened with the 480. When a card has questionable pricing for the performance it offers this is what you get. If it offered 690 performance for 690 price this wouldn't happen.
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