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Apologies for yet another thread like this biggrin.gif
Both cpus are the same price in my country, so Im having a hard time to decide.

The i5 wins majority of the benchmarks here but Im not entirely convinced since the FX can overclock if needed.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/4


What kind of performance increase can I expect coming from an FX6100?
Which CPU would be faster in Adobe After Effects? particulary when rendering the RAM Preview
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This debate gets discussed every other hour on this forum - remember that the i5 CAN be overclocked up to 4 bins (400Mhz) with a Z77, Z68, P67 motherboard. Generally the AMD's win on highly threaded work loads where all the cores can be utilized. Go for the Intel and save some headache thumb.gif
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post #3 of 36
i5 for gaming ,amd for cpu intensive softwares,so in your case the AMD wins if you dont mind that they eat almost 2x the power of a i5
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sorry about this topic again, although Im comparing the locked i5 and not the 3570K.
The 3570K is $50 more expensive than the FX8320 in my country so its too high for my budget.

the locked 3470 can be overclocked!?
so the turbo speed of 3.6 could become 4.0 ghz? that might be a game changer.

I use these programs daily for my work: Adobe Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects.
My FX6100 starts to slow down when Ive reached 11gb ram usage and I'd like to utilize all my ram
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post #5 of 36
The 8320 has the advantage that is can fit right into your 6100 board so some pretty big savings. As for the concerns over power usage, they are CRAP, there is a difference but over the course of a year it is not enough to make up the cost difference in some cases, especially since you will have to get a motherboard as well.
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Originally Posted by Mopar63 View Post

The 8320 has the advantage that is can fit right into your 6100 board so some pretty big savings. As for the concerns over power usage, they are CRAP, there is a difference but over the course of a year it is not enough to make up the cost difference in some cases, especially since you will have to get a motherboard as well.

actually, I also plan on replacing my motherboard with whatever cpu I get so I can have 32gb ram.
so ill spend about $300 for both cpu and a board that can take 32gb ram.
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however working with AE isn't all about threading, which is configured by the user to begin with; even an octocore has to be configured by the user properly to make use of the scheduling; its not plug and play. there is also configuring how much RAM is associated with each core since AE doesn't do one task among several threads but does several tasks simultaneously.

so if you want a cpu that does several single tasks at once with a efficient memory I/O that would be the i5.

hands down.
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however working with AE isn't all about threading, which is configured by the user to begin with; even an octocore has to be configured by the user properly to make use of the scheduling; its not plug and play. there is also configuring how much RAM is associated with each core since AE doesn't do one task among several threads but does several tasks simultaneously.

so if you want a cpu that does several single tasks at once with a efficient memory I/O that would be the i5.

hands down.

yep, I spent an entire day benchmarking different settings just to see which is fastest with my current rig.

So far the fastest time were these two:
5 cores with 2gb ram per core
3 cores with 3gb ram per core

If I get the FX8350, I will definitely need at least 32gb ram to fully utilize all cores.
the i5 on the other hand, would be fine with my 16gb ram and might turn out to be cheaper in the long run
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yep, I spent an entire day benchmarking different settings just to see which is fastest with my current rig.

So far the fastest time were these two:
5 cores with 2gb ram per core
3 cores with 3gb ram per core

If I get the FX8350, I will definitely need at least 32gb ram to fully utilize all cores.
the i5 on the other hand, would be fine with my 16gb ram and might turn out to be cheaper in the long run
well yes and no. as i wanted to point out that though AE is mulitthreaed - its doesn't take a single task and splits it up among several threads to processes in parallel but takes several tasks and processes them in parallel. the FX would be better suited for the former whereas the ivy bridge is better suited for the latter.

proof?
Adobe After Effects CS6 Rendering 3 Streams into 1 (210 Frames)

if you look the i5-3470 is using DDR3 1600 whereas the FX-8350 is using DDR3-1866 so you also be able to use cheaper RAM. you will see a small difference with an i5 and DDR3-1866 but anything faster and more expensive will have sever diminishing returns. there will be better perofrmance with an FX processor and DDR3 2133 but with the better memory controller in the i5, there isn't the need.

but i digressed! my yes and no pertained to that you may have configured AE for your FX processor you have now but, i believe you will have vastly different result with configuring the core/RAM set up with an i5 so, its a bit of apples and oranges.
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That benchmark shows the i5 3470 beating a 980x and 2600K , and the ancient QX6700 beats the FX6100.
Something is very wrong.
I wish they would release the project they tested so I could test for myself.
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