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I had a major editorial plagiarize a review I did of my ultrabook, unbelievable really.
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bf4 is the only game on that graph expected now? Lol
post #104 of 117
I find it amusing that it requires an article like this for people to understand that virtually all PC hardware reviews are financially motivated and should be taken with a truckload of salt.
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I find it amusing that it requires an article like this for people to understand that virtually all PC hardware reviews are financially motivated and should be taken with a truckload of salt.

How so? I can tell you that some sites are run in a "revenue neutral" way, which basically means all of the money they get from advertisement goes back into the site or to the reviewers. Granted, many require their sites to generate income to put bread on the table but you shouldn't lump every publication into the same preconception.
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I agree - but some companies will have their sharks baited there surely

Of course they do, that's why I only read negative reviews and then pick them apart to make sure whoever wrote it knows what they're talking about.
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I also noticed that benchmark test is completely different to in game bench.

For example I ran a Benchmark test on Tomb Raider , the results :

Benchmark test MAXED setting 1024x720 ( tes on) :
Min : 17.6
Maxed : 26.3
Avg. 21.1

Actual gameplay :
27 avg
( cant remember the min or maxed )
post #108 of 117
The "hair bench" in Tomb Raider is specifically geared towards showcasing TressFX rather than reflecting actual gameplay. In short, it is a joke.
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Of course they do, that's why I only read negative reviews and then pick them apart to make sure whoever wrote it knows what they're talking about.

I tend to put more weight into the reviews that give out 3s & 4s than the others, because fanboys/trolls are going to skew the extremes. Then there's always the worthless idiots who rate a product based on how it was shipped to them, or, the people who admit in their review that they don't own the product in question, then go on to say how great/terrible it *would* be.
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The "hair bench" in Tomb Raider is specifically geared towards showcasing TressFX rather than reflecting actual gameplay. In short, it is a joke.

How is that a joke? If a card can showcase a feature, it's legitimate to bench or review that feature. I may be in the minority here, but I think a GPU should be judged based on more than just its framerates. Like, for instance, such relevant things as how cool/warm it runs, or, where the UPS guy left it when it was delivered.
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post #110 of 117
I'm really not sure how to respond to those that responded to me. You have your opinion, and that is ok. Fact is that board almost did get a MEH/FAIL...until I was given the newest bios and everything worked just fine. How can I(anyone) fail a board that works fine? I was quite transparent with ALL the issues I had in the review...

As far as if someone bought it, well, what can you do there? There are boards that dont have issues that were fixed that people buy and they fail. Is that the reviewers fault too for not being able to know that? One thing to note is that the review was published in February, one of the first I think. So its possible the problems didnt blow up at that point... I dont really know.

The the person that misquoted Bobnova - yes I tested out all the ports/controllers and they worked. Yes I personally bought EVGA boards in the past that were flawless (P55 FTW, and 780i FTW) throughout its lifespan with me.

No reviewer is going to be able to please everyone reading their reviews. That is why most people say to read reviews from multiple sites and user experiences (though some users are not as skilled as others, so their problems could very well be on their end) and make your decision from there. Failing a miracle last night while I was sleeping that transformed me into an omnipotent being, reviewers are still human and mistakes are inevitable too (not saying the review is a mistake, I stand behind it 100%, but just saying to cut us some slack). I personally do this after my 50 hour work week taking care of 2 kids.

Its easy to complain and whine about reviews... you are welcome to write your own to stand up above the rest if what you read mostly everywhere is garbage. In fact, I hope you do. The point is to get the best information to the reader. If you feel you can do that, please step up and make it happen for those around you! thumb.gif

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I find it amusing that it requires an article like this for people to understand that virtually all PC hardware reviews are financially motivated and should be taken with a truckload of salt.
This is an interesting point. We are not a huge website and our Editorial and review staff are not paid by the website/host to complete the reviews. We do get to keep the hardware. That said, bad review or not, we get to keep the hardware. We have MEH or FAILED several products and we still get products from them. I know our site is not afraid to hand out those results.

In working with vendors, most appreciate the honesty that reviews (should) provide. I cant speak for other sites but when we run in to issues, we notify the vendor of the problem. Perhaps the reviewer is making the mistake, perhaps its a fault of the product in hand. But we let the vendor know about the problem. What they do from there is up to them. I think its an injustice to our readers to not notify vendors of the issues we find. How they respond is also valuable to our readers as well.

There wouldn't be a potential conflict of interest if we bought out own parts, I agree. But forums, especially ones of our size, don't make NEARLY enough money to procure the 10's of motherboards, GPU's, CPU's, SSD's, coolers, etc we review. We have probably reviewed tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff over the course of a year and dont make close that I would imagine. Whats funny though I dont hear people complaining about...........say.......... MotorWeek for their automobile reviews...they dont buy the cars either and get paid for reviewing the cars. This is common practice for vendors to provide the product. The worst that can happen from that IMO, is they have a chance to send you cherry picked products.

We try our best, as volunteers note, to bring the most accurate information to the readers as possible. But just for the record, we sure as hell are not financially motivated in the least. I work for the readers and try to bring the best information I can bring to them in a limited timeframe with the product.


Thanks again for your opinions.
Edited by Earth Dog - 3/22/13 at 7:50am
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